Extremist settlers rapidly seizing West Bank land (www.bbc.co.uk)
from flango@lemmy.eco.br to world@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 2024 18:28
https://lemmy.eco.br/post/7509313

[…] BBC World Service has seen documents showing that organisations with close ties to the Israeli government have provided money and land used to establish new illegal outposts.

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MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 2024 18:30 next collapse

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Tja@programming.dev on 14 Sep 2024 18:46 next collapse

I understand, the BBC is a very obscure niche news site.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Sep 2024 19:11 collapse

It’s probably more familiar with trashbat.co.ck

nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Sep 2024 19:22 collapse

Honestly is someone paying instances to keep this bot around or something?

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Deceptichum@quokk.au on 14 Sep 2024 19:39 next collapse

News stopped using it, seems WorldNews is the only community left not listening to its users wishes.

The bot is also the personal project of one of the admins of Lemmy.world, so it’ll probably never go away as long as the admin can abuse their position to force others to keep it and go around closing all threads talking negatively of it, whilst giving a tone-deaf response to all criticism of the bot.

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2024 22:57 next collapse

This is like a 30 minute beginner’s API project. If that admin is married to it, they have bad priorities.

goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org on 16 Sep 2024 01:25 collapse

No people don’t understand, we only hate it because of other bots. Totally nothing else :/

goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org on 16 Sep 2024 01:24 collapse

It wouldn’t surprise anyone if mbfc is paying the admins for it

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 2024 18:54 next collapse

I’m sure this will be an unpopular take, and I know this is their home, but if I were a Palestinian right now, I would honestly be all about someone helping me relocate far far away from Israel.

HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee on 14 Sep 2024 19:12 next collapse

i dont think it works like that, they dont get to leave they just no longer have a home.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 2024 20:40 collapse

I know, but I wish it did work like that.

Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2024 21:49 next collapse

If you’re going to wish for something, how about wishing Israel would stop genociding?

Count042@lemmy.ml on 16 Sep 2024 14:59 collapse

“I wish Israel would just commit ethnic cleansing instead of genocide”

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 2024 15:11 collapse

No, I wish the Palestinians would survive, rather than being wiped out by Israel.

Deceptichum@quokk.au on 14 Sep 2024 19:31 next collapse

If I was a Palestinian right now, I would want to fight the people taking my home and killing my family.

OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca on 14 Sep 2024 20:08 next collapse

And people wonder why they join or support Hamas.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 14 Sep 2024 20:41 collapse

Many of them are. I don’t think they’re doing too well.

AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net on 14 Sep 2024 19:52 next collapse

“helping” seems like an odd word to use for “threatened at gunpoint”.

Doorbook@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2024 15:05 next collapse

Your statement is not ignorant of the the current situation but also similar to the “if I am Jew, I will relocate to another country” during the Nazi regime.

InvertedParallax@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2024 17:24 next collapse

I’m sure Himmler said the same.

gcheliotis@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2024 21:36 collapse

I think you’re making a valid point about fleeing persecution, which is a perfectly rational decision for one’s self-preservation, but the keyboard warriors will downvote you because it sounds like you’re advocating for relinquishing Palestinian lands to Israel.

sazey@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2024 22:00 next collapse

If leaving to be relocated somewhere else isn’t relinquishing your lands, then what is it? Do yo think the Israeli government will hold the place for the Palestinians that may eventually want to return? Also, no one wants the Palestinians, they are some of the poorest people on Earth and don’t have fancy second passports like most Israelis.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 2024 00:28 collapse

Yep.

I’ve started several replies and then given up because I don’t have the energy to explain the subtleties of what I am suggesting.

roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Sep 2024 01:00 collapse

Shit, I don’t even think it has to be subtle. People emigrate all the time for a variety of reasons. And most of them are much less compelling than “I’m surrounded by people who might decide to murder my entire family any day.”

They have no responsibility to stick it out and take the risk just because other people, including myself, don’t want to see the settlers win.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 2024 01:06 collapse

Yes! Exactly! How do they not understand this simple concept? Their myopathy myopia is honestly a little shocking.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 16 Sep 2024 16:40 collapse

*myopia

Myopathy is something else.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 2024 16:49 collapse

Ok, fair point. You can’t rule out myopathy though!

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 2024 19:51 next collapse

Settlers invaders

RegalPotoo@lemmy.world on 14 Sep 2024 20:32 collapse

Militants

SattaRIP@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Sep 2024 21:14 collapse

Terrorists

Maeve@kbin.earth on 14 Sep 2024 21:30 next collapse

`“Whenever you put outposts illegally in the area, it brings tensions with the Palestinians… living in the same area,” he says.
One of the extremist settlers sanctioned by the UK was Moshe Sharvit - the man Ayesha says threatened her at gunpoint. Both he and the outpost he set up less than 800m (0.5miles) from Ayesha's home, were also sanctioned by the US government in March. His outpost was described as a “base from which he perpetrates violence against Palestinians”.
“He’s made our life hell,” Ayesha says, who must now live with her son in a town close to Nablus.

196 verified.

Skates@feddit.nl on 16 Sep 2024 01:38 collapse

Think there’s any way to get Russia to attack Israel instead of Ukraine? We could allow either country to keep any land they earn from the conflict, no questions asked. Only stipulation being, only one country can remain.

And then the victorious party can eat the rest of the world’s nukes.