China Is Leading the World in the Clean Energy Transition. Here's What That Looks Like (www.wired.com)
from schizoidman@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 15:04
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The hope is that other countries, reassured by that commitment, will follow China’s example rather than America’s.

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whiwake@lemmy.cafe on 04 Oct 15:25 next collapse

Meanwhile China is cutting the green budgets and people forget to talk about that because it’s more fun to use climate action as a political weapon.

HowRu68@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 15:53 next collapse

Good China is committing, maybe check this other article for another contextual framing.

The pace of emissions reduction (about 1% per year) is slower than that of most industrialized nations, and some analysts argue that China’s targets are conditional on favorable economic and technological conditions

Bullerfar@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 16:28 collapse

Isn’t it because most of their renewable energy sources are produced by themselves, and is cheap as fuck compared to build a new coal plant. Easier to quickly scale solar and wind, rather than building burning plants? = no need of any labelled and beaurocratic “green budgets” Anymore. Because renewables already IS the prefered energy source. (because of price per MwH)

whiwake@lemmy.cafe on 05 Oct 01:08 collapse

No they just slashed the budget for it. There were articles a week or two ago.

3abas@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 02:36 collapse

The articles only covered the budget cuts, so you refuse to entertain a reason not mentioned in those articles?

From this article: “Xi Jinping’s speech included a commitment to reach 3,600 gigawatts (GW) of installed wind and solar capacity by 2035, six times the country’s 2020 figures. This is already the leading country in terms of installed renewable power, and a giant on the technology front as well, with universities churning out environmental and climate tech research at full speed, and attracting scientists from abroad across numerous fields. He also announced a commitment to an energy mix with more than 30 percent renewables.”

Now reread the comment you replied to.

whiwake@lemmy.cafe on 05 Oct 02:47 collapse

China is going to stop funding green projects. This was weeks ago.

3abas@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 05:11 collapse

FFS, stop repeating your vague claim and share one of those articles you think backs it up…

Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Oct 07:02 collapse

Dude, they slashed their green budget, dude. Trust me!

Everything positive for the environment has to come from a green budget, dude. It was literally on fox news the other day!

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social on 04 Oct 17:05 next collapse

Population collapse due to 20 years of local officials lying about births and school registrations out of fear of not meeting President Xi’s targets means far fewer consumers and less pollution

RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 04 Oct 18:05 next collapse

Cool story

HowRu68@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 21:08 collapse

Population collapse due to 20 years of local officials lying about births and school registrations

Hadn’t even considered that scope yet. But sure, as population numbers drop so will the environmental footprint.

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social on 04 Oct 23:34 collapse

Population plummet over the next 30-40 years

Literally nothing can stop it the population is much older than anyone realized just 5 years ago

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Siegfried@lemmy.world on 04 Oct 18:45 next collapse

I feel like this is more propaganda than anything real. Last time I read about this, the scale was the number of patents for “green energy” and china was clearly ahead but particularly on batteries… I dont consider EV to be what will save mankind from the he’ll we are creating

RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Oct 00:01 collapse

Have you considered the possibility that this feeling you’re experiencing might also be the result of propaganda that you failed to critically examine?

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 01:26 collapse

This is a pretty shallow take, have you consider not looking the world in black and white?

All countries do this type of commitments with doing something against climate change. Some do more or less, but most if not all end up missing their own targets. Global temperature change following the worst predictions is kind of a sad proof* of it.

Unless you call the article anti China propaganda, all it says to sustain “China is leading green energy” is Xi commiting to things. I don’t deny China is advancing steadily on green energy, but the article sounds like shallow propaganda.

3abas@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 02:31 next collapse

They were responding to this:

I dont consider EV to be what will save mankind from the he’ll we are creating

You don’t consider? That’s a statement of opinion driven by feelings, not a statement of fact backed by data .

Anyway, EVs was not the only thing they’re doing.

all it says to sustain “China is leading green energy” is Xi commiting to things. I don’t deny China is advancing steadily on green energy, but the article sounds like swallow propaganda.

It also says “It should be pointed out that reducing emissions at the pace promised by Beijing means a decline of about 1 percent a year. According to an analysis by William Lamb of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, this is a slower pace than that held by most industrialized nations. Italy, for example, has reduced them by an average of 3.2 percent every 12 months since their peak in 2006; the United Kingdom by an average of 2.8 percent since 2004; France by 2.3 percent.”

And

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RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Oct 03:13 collapse

“no” would have sufficed

slaacaa@lemmy.world on 05 Oct 08:53 collapse

Press X to doubt

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shifty@leminal.space on 05 Oct 16:36 collapse

They’re at a turning point, and coal is on a downward trend as a % of their total energy usage, even if energy produced by coal increased.

ourworldindata.org/energy/country/china#what-sour…

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