EU parliament votes to ban meat names for plant-based foods (www.bbc.co.uk)
from FelixCress@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 07:08
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smeg@infosec.pub on 10 Oct 2025 07:33 next collapse

Dumb ploy in favor of the meat lobby. Consumers aren’t confused, they clearly know it’s a different product than meat. Stores put it in a separate section. We have hundreds of products with non-literal names to help consumers understand what they are trying to be.

The reality is that meat agriculture is bad for the environment, bad for public health (both individual health and for how it spreads disease), and is less shelf stable. It isn’t going anywhere, though, so stop trying to put barriers in front of better choices.

PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works on 10 Oct 2025 09:58 next collapse

Even the picture used in the thumbnail highlights how hard it is to ‘accidentally’ purchase a veg patty over a beef patty. There’s variations in the type of meat patties available like Angus, wagyu, smash, etc. but that’s not being regulated. No one is accidentally buying ‘sparkling protein’

evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:01 collapse

No one is accidentally buying ‘sparkling protein’

Obviously, true Hamburgers can only be made from humans born and raised within the Hamburg city limits.

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 10 Oct 2025 22:31 collapse

Just like meat from vegans could technically be sold as ‘vegan meat’

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 10 Oct 2025 12:32 collapse

And in the end, nothing changes except the packaging soon says “vegan burger alternative” instead of “vegan burger”. Then the meat industry jacks up the price and people buy more and usually cheaper vegan alternatives.

UnbrokenTaco@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 09:30 next collapse

I wonder if sausages with skin not made from intestine will still be allowed to be called sausages, since that’s what a sausage is supposed to be made from.

I guess they’ll have to come up with a new name for blood sausage too.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 09:51 next collapse

blood sausage

Like haggis? Or black pudding?

palordrolap@fedia.io on 10 Oct 2025 18:56 collapse

Strictly speaking, black pudding is a kind of blood sausage, but we'd probably use the former term for the entire category in Britain.

Some people classify haggis as a sausage, but it's definitely not a blood sausage.

Thadrax@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:10 collapse

Interestingly, those names carry different meanings in different languages. For example, a “Wurst” in Germany (which now has to be meat) is either the meat based food product or alternatively a sausage shaped object. So the whole EU ruling makes even less sense because it removes long established meanings from words or makes those illegal.

cosmicrookie@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 10:51 next collapse

Honestly I think that this might be a good thing for veggie prosucts

Some vegetable products make for pretty bad versions of their meat based counterpart but would be great products on their own accor

TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works on 10 Oct 2025 10:57 collapse

Yes, but also why does the government need to be involved?

I understand wanting clarity in good naming and standards, but I’ll never confuse a tofu burger or reconstituted mycelium protein nuggets with actual meat.

There is no real risk to the consumer in having language like tofu burger and veggie steak

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 14:09 collapse

why does the government need to be involved?

Because consumers should not be misled by deceiving manufacturers.

TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works on 10 Oct 2025 14:36 next collapse

Yeah I know my comment was 3 whole paragraphs and you can’t read gud, but I actually managed to address that

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:12 collapse

Nope

TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip on 10 Oct 2025 14:52 next collapse

Stupid reason. Burger used to mean pork and beef. There were laws for this. Now we have chicken burgers?? Yeah nobody cares.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:12 collapse

Stupid reason

Would it be OK to sell some cheap dog meat burgers as “vegan”? I meant taste would be probably the same but still misleading, don’t you think?

realitista@lemmus.org on 10 Oct 2025 17:27 collapse

Straw man argument. That’s not what’s happening here.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 17:43 collapse

This is exactly what is happening here. Heavily processed plant pulp being named like meat to deceive the customers, otherwise almost nobody with even a shadow of good taste would eat this shit.

Solventbubbles@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 20:20 collapse

Lol wtf are you talking about dude?

No vegetarian/vegan sees this packaging as tricking them into eating meat.

No meat eater is seeing this packaging as meat. And if they do get tricked into eating this product, holy shit they accidentally ate a plant.

God forbid you have some fiber in your diet.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 21:06 collapse

wtf are you talking about dude?

Can you read?

Solventbubbles@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 21:24 collapse

Ok bud.

evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 15:55 collapse

If you see “plant burger” and you are misled to think that it must be made of beef, that says a lot more about you than the manufacturer.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:09 collapse

plant burger

There is no such thing

noxypaws@pawb.social on 10 Oct 2025 20:31 collapse

I ate one last night. I assure you that plant burgers exist.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 21:06 collapse

plant burgers

*heavily processed plant pulp discs

noxypaws@pawb.social on 10 Oct 2025 21:30 collapse

as opposed to heavily processed animal pulp discs

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 16:30 next collapse

I’m very much against the self righteous types of vegans that go around reminding everyone like they’re an Arch user.

But… This is a stupid waste of EU time and resources. We have a lot more pressing matters to concern ourselves with than something literally nobody is confused about.

Some people in certain positions must be incredibly petty to even suggest this.

Makhno@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 01:14 next collapse

I’m very much against the self righteous types of vegans that go around reminding everyone like they’re an Arch user.

In my 2 decades online ive seen vastly more posts bitching about vegans than actual vegans preaching. Such a fucking big-meat psy-op

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 10:47 collapse

I’ve had militant vegan neighbours when I was a student. I don’t know how they did it, but they found ways of turning every conversation about them and their “superior” life choices.

Then there are the vegans I sometimes meet during my summer work ours; the ones standing on the street and bothering everyone walking past them in a very persistent manner. Like a jehova’s witness.

I’m not saying every vegan is like this. I think I’ve met more vegans that didn’t rub it in everyone’s face than ones that did. But consider yourself lucky that you haven’t met anyone like that in twenty years.

village604@adultswim.fan on 11 Oct 2025 02:51 collapse

I’m wondering if this is because of regulations like, “it has to have X amount of peanuts to legally be called peanut butter.”

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 10:50 collapse

This would be the silliest version of it.

A burger or a sausage is more like a format of food rather than a specific ingredient of food. It would be like saying things sold as a “loaf” can only be made of wheat.

leriotdelac@lemmy.zip on 10 Oct 2025 16:50 next collapse

So there is nothing better for them to do? No bigger problems? Seriously.

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Oct 2025 14:02 collapse

Yeah, these are our biggest problems. Perks of living between but not under Putin and Trump. It’s stupid though, but at the same time a big issue. Mega corps (in the meat and dairy industry) having too much influence, pushing these dumb laws. It sounds innocent, but there’s a much bigger issue behind it. Same as in the US, how it all started and how it created the country’s current downfall: Mega corps destroying society for their own profits.

reddig33@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 17:30 next collapse

Next up, no labeling “hot dogs” as such, unless they include dog meat in them!

nosuchanon@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 12:36 collapse

Don’t forget that squirrel, raccoon, and possum meat. That’s where the magic flavor comes from!

Paragone@lemmy.world on 10 Oct 2025 19:18 next collapse

Yeah, except they’re deciding to ban the word “burger” from veggie-burgers??

“hamburger” is named what it is, because it wasn invented in Hamburg.

This is politically-correct type idiocy.

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Obi@sopuli.xyz on 10 Oct 2025 19:43 collapse

It’s not about being politically correct, it’s about appeasing the meat industry lobbies and helping them keep market share.

maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2025 13:31 collapse

Is it just me or do the burgers smell like cat food?