China says there are no negotiations with the US over tariffs (apnews.com)
from RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 12:41
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BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 13:05 next collapse

Ha ha, Trump is being called out by China for lying:

China also made it clear that talks should involve the cancellation of all tariffs it currently faces.

“The unilateral tariff increase measures were initiated by the United States. If the United States really wants to solve the problem, it should face up to the rational voices of the international community and all parties at home, completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China, and find ways to resolve differences through equal dialogue,” said He, the spokesman.

52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org on 24 Apr 13:56 next collapse

I think it is word games. What constitutes “Talking about tariffs?” Each side wants the other to appear to be the one that comes to the table first.

1984@lemmy.today on 24 Apr 14:05 next collapse

No its not word games. Have you heard Trump talk? Its all lies and bullshit.

Honestly, China are the adults in the room these days. Its a strange world.

mmddmm@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 14:37 next collapse

No large country is negotiating with Trump.

BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 15:59 collapse

China doesn’t do press releases from the toilet at 2 am, one handed, with a burger in the other hand. China is not playing games.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 24 Apr 20:10 collapse

I hate it that the Chinese government of all sounds like the reasonable person in this room.

This is the same government that is execution genocide and you know, executing people for a host of mi or offenses, like being against the government.

Yet here we are.

BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 21:06 collapse

Yup. Same.

zephorah@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 13:37 next collapse

Classic Cluster B like behavior.

Mihies@programming.dev on 24 Apr 13:55 next collapse

I wish EU was capable of similar attitude as China instead of digging our hole by trying to appease the Orange liar in chief no matter what.

aleq@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 14:19 next collapse

While I do think the EU is lacking the balls to do this, there’s also some strategy to consider here. It certainly would be lovely if the EU would be more defensive, but also more damaging to the EU economy (at least in the short run, probably for a long time).

China is being painted as enemy number one, and there’s long-standing beef between the countries. Trump lost or is losing the trade war, and needs to make himself not look weak. Meanwhile China wants to project strength internally. Whatever is happening between closed doors, China has everything to gain from humiliating the US at this point. Trumps incompetence is already evident, they just need to fuel the flames.

With the EU, the situation is wildly different. EU doesn’t really want to project power, they want to project exactly as much power as is necessary not to seem weak but no more. It wants to show that it’s a level-headed free trade partner ready to take the lead in the free world, the fairest and most stable market in the world.

…that’s my take on it anyway. USE! USE! USE! USE! 🇪🇺

mmddmm@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 14:39 next collapse

What exactly do you want the EU to do or not do?

Because I don’t see any country there trying to appease Trump. Except if you mean it as literally saying nice things, instead of doing something.

Mihies@programming.dev on 24 Apr 18:02 collapse

For starters implement reciprocal tariffs. Which we only virtually did only to pause them to not anger the orange. Next, don’t visit the orange nor start talking with him. It’s like China says, he should start conversation.

mmddmm@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 18:12 collapse

The EU are implementing reciprocal tariffs, aren’t they?

Mihies@programming.dev on 24 Apr 18:21 collapse

AFAIK not. They “wanted” to, but then paused them all together, while orange retained initial ones. 🤷‍♂️

dmalteseknight@programming.dev on 24 Apr 14:40 collapse

China has the luxury of being a totalitarian state. Xi does not need to worry about upcoming elections. Unfortunately in Europe any moves that requires great sacrifice might be political suicide.

flynnguy@programming.dev on 24 Apr 14:45 next collapse

I’m not really pro-china on much of anything but I agree with them on this. Trump’s tariff’s are bullshit and he should be called out on them.

Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io on 24 Apr 15:17 collapse

He was called out, Xi said, "drop the unilateral tariffs, and then we can talk."

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Apr 15:41 next collapse

Cheeto man believes USA is major world power instead of genocidal empire in accelerating decay.

Yoga@lemmy.ca on 24 Apr 16:21 next collapse

Chinese people aren’t stupid. They will know the direct cause of any struggles caused by tariffs. Their citizens hating americans isn’t really a problem for the CCP, they likely benefit from the resentment.

Bosht@lemmy.world on 24 Apr 19:54 collapse

There is no negotiation except ‘quit your stupid shit and remove the tariffs’.