When will we finally admit: the Gaza death toll is higher than we’ve been told (www.theguardian.com)
from griff@lemmings.world to world@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 14:56
https://lemmings.world/post/31738102

How many people have been killed by Israel in Gaza since 7 October 2023?

It’s an almost impossible question to answer but, as the likes of the New York Times publish atrocity-minimizing op-eds that argue Israel hasn’t killed all that many people really – certainly not as many people as it could kill if it wanted to with all the big-boy bombs US taxpayers have helped fund – it’s an increasingly important issue to grapple with. “The first question the anti-Israel genocide chorus needs to answer is: Why isn’t the death count higher?” Bret Stephens asked in his recent New York Times op-ed. Here’s the thing, Bret. It almost certainly is

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Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 15:41 next collapse

John Mearsheimer estimates that there are between 300,000 - 500,000 killed by Israel either directly through violence or through the destruction of the medical infrastructure and now the enforced starvation. If aid isn’t received in massive quantities then there will be up to a million dead by the end of the year. Around 40% of the total pre genocide population of Gaza.

This is a minutely engineered Holocaust.

TachyonTele@piefed.social on 08 Aug 15:49 next collapse

You can admit it anytime you'd like, guardian.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Aug 09:31 collapse

Yeah, The Guardian was a massive Israel cheerleader - in a similar way to the New York Times - until a few months ago, though like it’s typical of the British Press, they tended to do it (and still do, to a level) via using differently charged language for different sides, selective reporting and the “good old” selective use of the passive when it comes to the actions of each side (for example Israelis “are killed” whilst Palestinians merely “die”).

Still, good that even they have changed their stand in the last few months, though that doesn’t excuse the pro-Genocide propagandist slant they had for over a year.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Aug 16:04 next collapse

In about fifty years, when the boomers are long dead and all the people who were in favor of genocide can pretend they were on the right side of history.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Tm12@lemmy.ca on 08 Aug 18:29 next collapse

“Ya can’t just trust the Health Authority figures” 🙄

Mossheart@lemmy.ca on 08 Aug 23:51 collapse

‘how many would be a more appropriate number for your conscience?’

Davriellelouna@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 20:30 next collapse

This an opinion article, not a news article.

griff@lemmings.world on 08 Aug 20:45 next collapse

in what community would it be more appropriately posted?

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 22:40 next collapse

Opinion articles MAY be removed, but are not AUTOMATICALLY removable just because they are opinion.

Not all opinions are created equal. :)

Taking off the mod hat for a moment, I think this is a valid question.

We saw it in this very community at the beginning as the numbers started rolling up, there were a number of apologists trying to say “We don’t know that many people died! It could be less!” it was a daily fight on the misinformation front.

wheezy@lemmy.ml on 09 Aug 01:41 collapse

Yeah and all the “40 babies in ovens” articles were not opinion articles because a dumb old man with ass cancer lied about it when he was president.

I think this being “opinion” is more telling of what our media decides to label as such.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 23:10 next collapse

Every single day Israel kills more children than were killed in total on October 7 2023.

Every day.

Danquebec@sh.itjust.works on 09 Aug 01:07 collapse

“Why isn’t the death count higher?”

So that Israel can continue the genocide.