from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 23 Mar 13:54
https://sh.itjust.works/post/57269892
On 5 March, a post appeared on the X account of Iran’s late supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, managed by his staff after he was killed in an Israeli airstrike on 28 February. The tweet featured a stark piece of propaganda: a gleaming, oversized missile arcing across the sky as a city below is engulfed in flames. The caption read: “Khorramshahr moments are on the horizon.”
The Khorramshahr missile, Iran’s most advanced ballistic missile, is believed to be capable of carrying a cluster warhead dispersing up to 80 submunitions. Since that post, it has come to loom large in Israeli threat assessments, a persistent concern for a country equipped with a multi-layered missile defence system that is widely regarded as the world’s most sophisticated.
The latest attack using cluster munitions occurred on Sunday, when an Iranian ballistic missile struck central Israel, injuring 15 people.
According to the Israel Defense Forces, roughly half of the missiles launched from Iran since the escalation have carried cluster warheads.
The Guardian, which reviewed the impact of dozens of Iranian strikes alongside statements from Israeli officials, has identified at least 19 ballistic missiles carrying cluster warheads that penetrated Israeli airspace and struck urban areas since the beginning of the war with Iran on 28 February. Those attacks have killed at least nine people and wounded dozens, reflecting a broader shift in Iran’s tactics that appears to have exposed a vulnerability in Israel’s air defences. Since the start of the war, Iran’s cluster munitions – which disperse dozens of bomblets mid-air – have tested Israel’s highly advanced, multi-tier missile defence network, including Iron Dome, which is designed to counter threats across ranges, altitudes and speeds, exposing gaps that interception alone has struggled to close.
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Who would have thought that ignoring international law, treaties, and conventions would encourage your enemies to do the same? It’s almost as if limiting yourself to limit those who would do the same to you makes sense. Pesky laws.
It’s also noteworthy that neither country, to my knowledge, agreed not to use cluster munitions.
Even if Iran would have agreed to it, after having the US and Israel bomb civil infrastructure, as well as committing other war crimes, they have a right to defend themselves. And so far every answer has been proportional, maybe even less than it could have been.
That was the point of my first paragraph. Israel not participating in the CCM was just a bonus. I was aware there were international agreements not use to cluster munitions and I looked into it because I was curious.
It’s fascinating (in a horrific kind of way) that literally all participants in this war are monstrous. Seriously, there are no good guys. This is turning into WWIII, but I always figured that when it happened, there would be clearly identifiable victims and aggressors.
How naive of me. Everyone involved is victim and aggressor simultaneously.
I don’t see how the US is anything other than the aggressor. Both Iran and Israel suck and they have no concern for human life, but I can see how they can claim to be victims. Not the US.
How can Israel claim to be the victim in this war against Iran?
Israeli people are victims, Israel isn’t.
Victims in what way? They're only taking an infinitesimally fraction of what they're dishing out. A serial killing getting scratched every now and then isn't my idea of victimhood.
Fair point.
How is this turning into WW3?
It still seems like a relatively small scale war. There’s no big allies for Iran. There’s no attacks on the US beyond military bases and ships really. There’s a global economic impact, but that doesn’t constitute a global war imo.
Could this change? of course, but so could the ukraine war.
I can’t imagine the Iran war’s death count is even remotely close to the genocide in gaza that is still ongoing.
Finally, some good news.
I agree. Every time an Israeli is killed the world becomes a marginally better place. I would LOVE to see the entire country and all its people wiped off the fucking planet. Ahh, the dream of justice.
A giant mass grave that fertilizes the rebirth of Palestine.
You can make that case for adult Israelis who are in favour of this war, but there are children in every country who are innocent. If you’re hoping for their deaths, you’re no better than the IDF who kill and torture children.
People seemed to think Iran was Iraq/Afghanistan.
It ain’t and it took us 20 years to get out of there.
Irans strategy seemed to be to degrade air defenses in Israel, then use their newer munitions when ammo supplies dropped.
My question is how the fuck did anyone in Israel and the US become so fucking stupid that they wouldn’t assume what is essentially counter-battery, and why didn’t they stockpile munitions for the counter attacks? Like, I’m not surprised that both parties had the hubris to believe Iran would fold after 5 days of fighting. But how did professional men at arms not consider this scenario?