Biden says Israel-Gaza war should end now and Israel must not occupy Gaza (www.straitstimes.com)
from schizoidman@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 02:34
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cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/17891878

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timewarp@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 02:42 next collapse

The Biden administration who wants peace does the logical thing and sends more 500lbs bombs to Israel

zbyte64@awful.systems on 12 Jul 2024 21:20 collapse

Well you see Israel is our friend, and when a friend is acting irresponsibly with their weapons we don’t disarm them because that would be a violation of the 2nd amendment. No, instead you do the responsible thing and have a beer with them and look them in the eye and say “I’m serious”. Real men will get the message and do the wrong right thing and we can all stop worrying about the problem and get back to the real masculine work of shit posting.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 02:55 next collapse

Is desperation finally starting to set in?

FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 03:38 collapse

No, just more lies from Biden. Like his red lines, and like when he said he saw the photos of babies from Oct 7th.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 03:59 next collapse

Well…he also said trump would be his vp, and that putin was president of Ukraine.

In short, Biden says a lot of things these days. Just like how we beat medicare!

obinice@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 08:22 collapse

You’re probably being downvoted not because you’re technically wrong, he’s said all those things after all, but because you’re making your comparison in bad faith, and thus your point doesn’t stand.

He said all those things because he’s very old and unfortunately showing some senility that comes with the territory of being so close to the end of life.

Whereas this post is discussing official, vetted and correct remarks. An entirely different kettle of fish, as you well know.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 10:11 collapse

He said all those things because he’s very old and unfortunately showing some senility that comes with the territory of being so close to the end of life.

The problem with this, is he’s THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

Its cute when old people get part time jobs at movie theaters, or walmart, or simple things like that. If a walmart greeter doesn’t say “Hi, welcome to walmart”, nobody dies.

But this is the guy whos ultimately in charge of the military. And its scary to say that guy is in all likelyhood going to run for president again in 2024. If he loses, we get trump. A guy whos already stacking the dominoes to fall before election day even happens.

And if Biden wins, we get 4 years of a slow dissent into dementia. By the time 2028 comes, the world would want a drastic change. Just like they wanted a drastic change from bush in 08. Except this time, the drastic change will be trump. Running for the 6th time in his life. Because trump won’t stop running until he either gets a second term, or dies.

And we already saw what happens when the DNC runs a party nobody wants in office. Thats how trump went from total joke to face of the republicans for the past 8 years.

So no. I don’t trust Biden in office, but I also don’t want trump anywhere near the white house. Not even as a tourist.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 09:01 next collapse

The only way long lasting peace can be achieved is dismantling Israel in its current form and creation of the new Israel-Palestine state with power sharing between Jews and Arabs. Something like Northern Ireland solution. All the state functions, army, police to be equally shared between both nations.

WanderingVentra@lemm.ee on 12 Jul 2024 15:16 next collapse

Here, here!

steventhedev@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 18:59 collapse

So 30 years of killing and terrorism. Great idea.

Korean unification has better chances than a one state solution.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 19:22 next collapse

How many years of occupation and suffering for Palestinian people already?

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 21:24 collapse

Maybe more like BiH, where a third party intervened and said peace now or glass later.

Aka Dayton Agreement.

small44@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 09:49 next collapse

What ways of pressure will he use if israel refuses?

setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 12:31 next collapse

Listen fat.

bighatchester@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 14:03 collapse

By sending more bombs. In sure that will convince Israel to stop .

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 11:33 next collapse

Reminder that before Oct 7, Israel was still the occupying force in Gaza, as it still is in the West Bank. The absence of ground troops does not equal an end to occupation. So Biden here is being disingenuous.

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 19:45 collapse

They have no access to the waters along their coast and Isreal controls everything going in and out before this war and even more so now. Hamas was able to take over Palestine because of the anger the Palestinians had of Isreal, because of Isreal’s thumb on them. Nethanyahu and Hamas came into power at the same time and their hate for each other, which has consequences on their civilians. This is a war between Hamas and Nethanyahu and their people suffer.

nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Jul 2024 12:29 next collapse

I mean better late than never I guess but that’s not going to bring back the over 40k Palestinians who’s deaths he funded. Good way to distract from Obama and Pelosi telling him to step down though.

BobGnarley@lemm.ee on 12 Jul 2024 15:47 next collapse

Ah, now we change our tone 4 months out from election.

eronth@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 20:53 next collapse

Figures. He is, however, the better choice so hopefully this helps.

Paddzr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 21:49 collapse

I’m convinced these people are trolls. No one can be this stupid and consider not voting for Biden over it…its exactly what trumpers would want. They know these votes aren’t going for trump, so stopping them going to Biden is the best they can hope for… And it’s fucking working. Better yet, people have genuinely fallen for it and spread it on behalf of the troll farms.

BobGnarley@lemm.ee on 13 Jul 2024 00:44 collapse

Lol nope, I hate both of the old out of touch fucks they give you the choice of. Not telling you or anyone else not to vote simply saying, Of course a politician does something good they could have done the entire time they were in office for years before this months away from an election.

However, although I agree with you on biden being a better choice he is far from a GOOD choice. And everyone acting like that isn’t true is also trolling. Sure vote for him over the literal tyrant, but we still should acknowledge that it is abaolutely fucked up that they have let this become the only two choices. That part is what people should acknowledge. I’ll vote for dude but its literally like voting for the piece of shit that stinks just a little less. Its crazy that its this way.

Anyway, I was just simply saying that yeah of course dude waits until 4 months out to help the little guy for votes. They all do this and always have, but since you seemed to be curious on my opinion further than that, there it is.

Paddzr@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 2024 09:37 collapse

Thanks, that puts my mind at ease. Emotions are running rampant and comments like the first one are dangerous in my opinion.

But it’s someone that is old and not ideal vs someone with potential of going down into history books as second Hitler, if there would be any books left that is…

riodoro1@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 2024 11:56 collapse

All the students have been fucked already. Now we can pretend to listen to their protests

Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 19:07 next collapse

Is this before or after we sent a shitload of bombs for the IDF to use on poor emaciated children and homeless people in palestine?

riodoro1@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 2024 11:57 next collapse

Competing with fascists really shines a light on how awful centrists truly are.

Linkerbaan@lemmy.world on 14 Jul 2024 17:32 collapse

Proceeds to send israel more bombs