Authoritarianism is on the rise. Is climate change to blame? (grist.org)
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 09:26 next collapse

If that were the case, climate change caused the entire Roman Empire, the Chinese empire, the Mayans, the Songhai, all of feudalism…

treefrog@lemm.ee on 31 Oct 2024 12:04 next collapse

Scared people want strong leaders (a daddy) to tell them it’s okay, it’s not the climate, it’s the queers, migrants, etc. And Daddy’s going to fix it.

Blame may not be the right word. But the destruction of our environment and everything that goes with it, certainly gives authoritarianism an opening.

Judith Butler goes pretty deep into this in Who’s Afraid of Gender? Of course their analysis focuses mostly on how gender queer people end up being targeted. But the unnamed fear of climate destruction is a big factor. And trans people one of many scapegoats for power hungry demagogues.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 31 Oct 2024 15:41 next collapse

Who upvotes this nonsense? lol.

The causes of problems today are not necessarily the causes of problems for mayans, ancient romans, etal. It’s sad that I have to say this.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 16:42 collapse

Changing climate did have a major impact on all of those Empires though.

SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 17:23 collapse

Usually it’s a combination with dysfunctional politics, war, resource depletion and climate change.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 18:02 collapse

Not entirely sure climate change couldn’t just be argued to be the cause of all the others there.

SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 18:16 collapse

You can have succession wars, incompetent inbred rulers and overexploitation without any climate change. But climate change would make it more likely to happen and make the outcome worse.

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 31 Oct 2024 16:04 next collapse

Or maybe a broken political and economic system is causing a gathering of wealth in the hands of the 1% which is a major factor behind both climate change and increasing authoritarianism

SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 17:27 collapse

Any system will become broken is the same way. The top always gets greedy.

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 31 Oct 2024 17:33 collapse

Well in my ideal system (a form of decentralised anarchy) there is no “top”.

nothingcorporate@lemmy.today on 31 Oct 2024 16:14 next collapse

Late stage capitalism is to blame for both.

n3m37h@sh.itjust.works on 31 Oct 2024 16:16 next collapse

Broken education system is to blame

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 17:43 next collapse

No.

morphballganon@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 2024 18:16 next collapse

You got it backwards mate

Authoritarianism enables climate change, not the other way around

the_crotch@sh.itjust.works on 02 Nov 2024 14:00 next collapse

It was 9/11 butterfly effect. The US’s wars caused a refugee crisis, xenophobes across North America and Europe got their panties in a bunch about all the new brown people, turned to nationalism. New (and popular) authoritarian anti terrorism laws probably didn’t help either.

jerkface@lemmy.ca on 02 Nov 2024 14:03 collapse

I have had the belief for a few years that the rise of fascism is an emotional response to being afraid of an uncertain future that people feel like they have no power over.