RippleEffect@lemm.ee
on 15 Sep 2023 01:43
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I really don’t understand how the Wagner group can exist. Like what are you fighting for? It doesn’t seem worth it.
Labtec6@lemmy.ca
on 15 Sep 2023 01:57
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Paying bullies and murders to bully, rape and kill people. Why wouldn’t they?
MataVatnik@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 02:54
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Money, most of them come really poor backgrounds. Imagine living in the ghetto and getting offered well over $100,000 per year in the US.
The actual numbers I think soldiers start at 3k per month. Which is a shitton of money for somebody in rural Russia/Moldova/Ukraine. ( yes ukranians have been known to be recruited into Wagner before the war)
BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 05:23
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There are also sometimes some of the same principles of found family and inclusion that get kids into gangs too. A military unit can very much feel like a family sometimes (depending on the unit). Once the money lures them in the brain washing starts to make them a cohesive fighting unit and that often includes group loyalty and strong feelings of inclusion.
netwren@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 04:14
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I mean this isn’t unprecedented. Blackwater exists in the United States, hell you even have the Pinkertons, if you go back the revolutionary war the Brits used the Hessians to fight.
Mercenary is one of the oldest professions.
PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 06:49
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They’re a mercenary force that fights for money.
That said, you do not want to be captured by rebel forces in someplace like the CAR or DRC for any amount of money.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world
on 15 Sep 2023 10:37
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I really don’t understand how the Wagner group can exist. Like what are you fighting for? It doesn’t seem worth it.
Paying bullies and murders to bully, rape and kill people. Why wouldn’t they?
Money, most of them come really poor backgrounds. Imagine living in the ghetto and getting offered well over $100,000 per year in the US.
The actual numbers I think soldiers start at 3k per month. Which is a shitton of money for somebody in rural Russia/Moldova/Ukraine. ( yes ukranians have been known to be recruited into Wagner before the war)
There are also sometimes some of the same principles of found family and inclusion that get kids into gangs too. A military unit can very much feel like a family sometimes (depending on the unit). Once the money lures them in the brain washing starts to make them a cohesive fighting unit and that often includes group loyalty and strong feelings of inclusion.
I mean this isn’t unprecedented. Blackwater exists in the United States, hell you even have the Pinkertons, if you go back the revolutionary war the Brits used the Hessians to fight.
Mercenary is one of the oldest professions.
They’re a mercenary force that fights for money.
That said, you do not want to be captured by rebel forces in someplace like the CAR or DRC for any amount of money.
Money.
Wagner works in exchange for shares in mining operations in some places.
I really hope the rebels totally slaughter the lot of them.