Putin congratulates Trump on election win and says Russia ready for dialogue (www.theguardian.com)
from breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:04
https://lemmy.ca/post/32554078

Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump on winning the US election, and expressed admiration for the way Trump reacted to an assassination attempt during the campaign. He also said he was ready for dialogue with Trump, a prospect which will cause disquiet in Kyiv and many other European capitals.

Putin gave his first public remarks on Trump’s win on Thursday evening during a discussion forum in the Black Sea resort of Sochi. His words seemed calibrated to appeal to the president-elect’s well-documented fondness for flattery.

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Putin also claimed Trump had been “hounded by all sides” during the campaign, another line that is likely to resonate well with Trump, and offered his congratulations on the victory. He highlighted Trump’s remarks on Ukraine and Russia. “What was said about the desire to restore relations with Russia, to bring about the end of the Ukrainian crisis in my opinion this deserves attention at least,” said Putin.

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Ghyste@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 06:30 next collapse

What a surprise…

hOrni@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:39 next collapse

It’s not really a dialogue when one person just tells another what to do.

arin@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 10:57 next collapse

Trumo needs new instructions for his new job

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 08 Nov 2024 12:00 collapse

Trump sees that as an advantage… Putin thinks and plans for him for free… All the other people want $$$ for that.

Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 06:49 next collapse

You elected a patsy, way to go. ‘Merica.

And everyone knew he was too.

Trump: played

Americans: played

b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Nov 2024 13:17 collapse

Putin has Trump, Musk, Tucker Carlsen, etc. wrapped around his finger.

He must have so much dirt on all of them from Epstein island and the Diddy parties.

Foreigner@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 13:37 collapse

I don’t buy the argument that he has dirt on them anymore. They believe in this shit, they don’t need convincing.

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alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 07:12 next collapse

It’s wild how unpopular peace in Ukraine is among liberals.

seeyouatthepartyrichter@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 07:54 next collapse

Peace at the cost of giving up their land to invaders? Are you really this stupid or just straight up evil?

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seeyouatthepartyrichter@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 08:02 next collapse

How do you know my stance on Palestine?

I’m against all these types of behaviours. All you idiots have is whataboutism.

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ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee on 08 Nov 2024 13:06 next collapse

I don’t know what the other guy said but the “gEnOcIdE” people at least came out to vote. Now we have Trump in office so I sure hope the high horse was worth it.

Valmond@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 13:13 collapse

He said:

But when it’s happening to brown people in Palestine it’s fine. God you guys are hypocrites.

It’s just below if you scroll like 5 cm.

And I also doubt the russian shills voted in the american election.

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Naich@lemmings.world on 08 Nov 2024 07:58 next collapse

We tried appeasement of a dictator in 1939 and it didn’t help. But I’m sure it’ll work this time.

Valmond@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 08:42 collapse

And in 1991…

alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 09:35 collapse

1991? When the US backed Yeltsin’s coup, causing the breakup of the USSR, the greatest non-war-related humanitarian disaster of the 20th century, and paved the way for Putin to come to power?

banghida@lemm.ee on 08 Nov 2024 11:40 collapse

Bruh

Valmond@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 13:10 collapse

With them it’salways the fault of the USA. Almost funny :-/

Cruxifux@feddit.nl on 08 Nov 2024 13:35 collapse

If you think that the US wasn’t heavily involved in the final act of the Cold War then you don’t understand history or geopolitics and are not a serious person to be consulted on these matters.

teamevil@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 13:48 collapse

So funny you mentioned this…I actually did a paper twenty year ago in college about the fall of Russia and the truth is, the CIA was using (I think the term is) " Black Propaganda" to inform themselves. Black Propaganda was essentially incorrect old disinformation distributed by the CIA.

They were caught with their pants down in many ways. They may have aided at the end but the CIA was much more off guard than one would think.

Edit: my sources were literally declassified documents the CIA released. I got them from the college library. I’m sure libraries will be next to be gone

PorradaVFR@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 08:41 next collapse

We’d love peace there, like it was before Russia invaded. They should immediately withdraw all their troops so peace resumes. Great idea.

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NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 08 Nov 2024 11:14 collapse

By “Civil War” I think you meant to say “Russian Occupation of Crimea”

alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 15:12 collapse

No, I’m not talking about the Russian occupation of Crimea, if you weren’t following the news back then, you can filter google news by year.

NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 09 Nov 2024 07:19 collapse

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lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 08 Nov 2024 12:06 next collapse

Alright, feel free to tell us how to achieve a permanent peace there.

Hint: In 2014, we got a peace agreement in Ukraine and now, we have war. So, what should we do differently this time? How can we make sure that Putler doesn’t just fill up the army for 3 years in a “peace” phase and start the next attack afterwards??

Cheems@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:16 next collapse

“If you write Russia a blank check there will be just a couple of days of slaughter then no one else needs to die”

alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 15:05 collapse

In 2014, we got a peace agreement in Ukraine and now, we have war

Minsk II agreement was never enforced, they were fighting literally until the day of the invasion.

But a stable peace would require the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine to go to Russia or an independent state, both the Russian and Ukrainian paramilitaries that started this to be disarmed and prosecuted for war crimes.

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 08 Nov 2024 15:25 collapse

I don’t see how your suggestion solves the problem at all… Maybe, that’s a start…

Putin made clear multiple times that we wants the whole Ukraine. Serious question to you: How do we pretend this from happening?

The only way for a stable peace that I can imagine is: The remaining area of Ukraine gets full protection by NATO. Otherwise, Putin will try it again.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:54 next collapse

But may we all count ourselves lucky that the Czechoslovakian Crimean Problem has been settled.

alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml on 08 Nov 2024 15:34 collapse

The purpose of the western allies handing Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany and Poland was to enable Hitler and Poland to go after their stated enemy, the USSR.

This is why none of the western powers all broke or were unwilling to sign mutual defense pacts with the USSR, and France and the UK tried to join the winter war on the side of the axis, but were only stopped by Sweden denying them passage.

It does not apply here at all.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 15:42 collapse

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babybus@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 13:23 collapse

Would you give up your country for peace? By peace I mean living in a nearly totalitarian state where you could go to prison for liking something on social media that the government doesn’t like. And then you would be sent to the front to fight in another war with a neighboring country, just like they did with men from occupied areas in 2014.

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 08:18 next collapse

‘… about that direct line to the oval office…’

zante@slrpnk.net on 08 Nov 2024 08:40 next collapse

Surging American Stupidity show no signs of abating.

rayyy@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:28 next collapse

Of course, it was a huge win for Putin. His cy-ops and grooming program has paid off royally.

rayyy@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:32 next collapse

Stock up now, as if there were going to be multiple disasters, home invasions and widespread shortages. Learn how to defend yourself and your family.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 08 Nov 2024 12:53 next collapse

Did he do it while greasing up his hand, or is this some sort of marionette scenario?

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otp@sh.itjust.works on 08 Nov 2024 13:43 next collapse

Hey Trump, want to switch to the winning team in Ukraine?

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 10 Nov 2024 19:44 collapse

Love naked wife? We got more than naked wife. Give us economy monies back.