I get your criminal practicality, but this was probably more about reliable business opportunities.
Anyone that can go through all the steps to search the darknet and purchase Monero probably has enough knowledge to just acquire poison for themselves.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
on 29 May 17:58
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just acquire poison for themselves
… which they may well do on the darknet, to some vendor who at least will keep the transaction private.
Seriously bad OpSec just bothers me. “We sell hot sauce (and booze, ask for ‘Mr Fields’)” sort of barely worked at physical speakeasies in the 1920s. Not on the 2020’s Internet FFS.
Reminds me of the gang bangas who hold up a liquor store… then post themselves on Facebook with the booze and money.
I don’t want people to commit shade-tree suicide. I want social systems with mental and physical health care that people can really trust even about end-of-life decisions and that will respect rational consistent level-headed choices.
But absent such a system or in the cases where it breaks down, there is a utility in these markets. People should at least be aware the privacy technology exists.
Judging by the hints in the article, the lethal substance isn’t something that one needs to go to the darknet to find, but a quite common substance
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 30 May 16:00
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I don’t see these hints. It says he sold other culinary things but not in a way that suggests the substance was a culinary thing or anything. Sure it gives some symptoms and sounds like a depressent of some kind.
He had $296k CAD in his Shopify/PayPal accounts and sent out these pills to 1,200 people. That’s about $250 CAD / $180 USD / 155 Euro per transaction - minimum, assuming he had not withdrawn funds from those accounts.
Anyone with a welding/industrial supply store nearby could beat him on price without having to ingest anything. Painlessly, too.
This wasn’t a doctor helping terminal cancer patients.
It was just some asshole making $$$ selling poison to vulnerable people.
unknown@piefed.social
on 29 May 23:35
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This man is a hero, he helped so many people die.
Life sucks for a lot of people. Access to euthinasia should be a human right for all adults.
Idgaf if you believe suffering is noble and suicide is a sin, this doesn’t in anyway give you validity or mean your point of view is right, it just means you’re a shitty person who is forcing suffering on others to appease your ‘morals’.
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works
on 30 May 02:09
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I’m not sure if I can feel the same way when one of my family members kill themselves.
Like I said i another comment, the hints from the article make it seem like the substance he sold i a quite common and cheap one. If he really wanted to give people access to euthanasia, he would simple guide them on how to do and what to obtain, not sell them a very probably probably overpriced “kit”. That man was just exploiting vulnerable people
I’d agree with you that euthanasia must be a right, but there should never be a business around it
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
on 30 May 06:15
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I’m pro suicide. However, a lot of times suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
There should definitely be at least a couple of doctors in the loop for an assisted suicide. There also needs to be a lot more in the way of support for people in that hole. Both the emotional support, and more practical guidance (it’s hard to break out of the cycle when your life is objectively shit and all you can get is “there there, it will get better”).
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Dumbass. Should have used standard best practices: sell on the darknet , take payment in Monero .
I get your criminal practicality, but this was probably more about reliable business opportunities.
Anyone that can go through all the steps to search the darknet and purchase Monero probably has enough knowledge to just acquire poison for themselves.
… which they may well do on the darknet, to some vendor who at least will keep the transaction private.
Seriously bad OpSec just bothers me. “We sell hot sauce (and booze, ask for ‘Mr Fields’)” sort of barely worked at physical speakeasies in the 1920s. Not on the 2020’s Internet FFS.
Reminds me of the gang bangas who hold up a liquor store… then post themselves on Facebook with the booze and money.
I don’t want people to commit shade-tree suicide. I want social systems with mental and physical health care that people can really trust even about end-of-life decisions and that will respect rational consistent level-headed choices.
But absent such a system or in the cases where it breaks down, there is a utility in these markets. People should at least be aware the privacy technology exists.
That worked during prohibition because the bootleggers had bought the police.
Judging by the hints in the article, the lethal substance isn’t something that one needs to go to the darknet to find, but a quite common substance
I don’t see these hints. It says he sold other culinary things but not in a way that suggests the substance was a culinary thing or anything. Sure it gives some symptoms and sounds like a depressent of some kind.
I’ll do you one better. (Well, worse…)
He had $296k CAD in his Shopify/PayPal accounts and sent out these pills to 1,200 people. That’s about $250 CAD / $180 USD / 155 Euro per transaction - minimum, assuming he had not withdrawn funds from those accounts.
Anyone with a welding/industrial supply store nearby could beat him on price without having to ingest anything. Painlessly, too.
This wasn’t a doctor helping terminal cancer patients.
It was just some asshole making $$$ selling poison to vulnerable people.
This man is a hero, he helped so many people die.
Life sucks for a lot of people. Access to euthinasia should be a human right for all adults.
Idgaf if you believe suffering is noble and suicide is a sin, this doesn’t in anyway give you validity or mean your point of view is right, it just means you’re a shitty person who is forcing suffering on others to appease your ‘morals’.
I’m not sure if I can feel the same way when one of my family members kill themselves.
Like I said i another comment, the hints from the article make it seem like the substance he sold i a quite common and cheap one. If he really wanted to give people access to euthanasia, he would simple guide them on how to do and what to obtain, not sell them a very probably probably overpriced “kit”. That man was just exploiting vulnerable people
I’d agree with you that euthanasia must be a right, but there should never be a business around it
You should read the article.
Selling to 16 year olds is a bit questionable, teenagers tend to make impulsive decisions.
I’m pro suicide. However, a lot of times suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
There should definitely be at least a couple of doctors in the loop for an assisted suicide. There also needs to be a lot more in the way of support for people in that hole. Both the emotional support, and more practical guidance (it’s hard to break out of the cycle when your life is objectively shit and all you can get is “there there, it will get better”).
Send the rest of it to the White House, labelled “smart” pills.