Irish unification referendum by 2030, Sinn Fein leader tells Sky News (news.sky.com)
from Stamau123@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 03:17
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Mary Lou McDonald had previously said unification was within “touching distance” after the return of power-sharing government to Northern Ireland, led by her Sinn Fein colleague Michelle O’Neill. But she acknowledges there is “an awful lot of work to be done”.

Mary Lou McDonald was speaking to Sky News following the restoration of the Northern Ireland executive, where her party - a nationalist group - is now the largest caucus in Belfast for the first time since the Good Friday Agreement came into effect.

She said: “What I firmly believe is - in this decade - we will have those referendums, and it’s my job and the job of people like me who believe in reunification to convince, to win hearts and minds and to convince people of that opportunity - part of which, by the way, will be really consolidating our relationship with Britain as our next door neighbour and good friend.”

Asked if she meant before 2030, Ms McDonald said “yes”.

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 09 Feb 2024 03:20 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Mary Lou McDonald was speaking to Sky News following the restoration of the Northern Ireland executive, where her party - a nationalist group - is now the largest caucus in Belfast for the first time since the Good Friday Agreement came into effect.

She said: “What I firmly believe is - in this decade - we will have those referendums, and it’s my job and the job of people like me who believe in reunification to convince, to win hearts and minds and to convince people of that opportunity - part of which, by the way, will be really consolidating our relationship with Britain as our next door neighbour and good friend.”

Under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, there is a pathway for a reunification poll to be held in Northern Ireland.

According to the Institute For Government, there is no parallel mechanism in the Good Friday Agreement for a referendum in the Republic of Ireland, where Ms McDonald is a politician.

Asked about her previous comments that unity is within touching distance, the Sinn Fein president said she was talking in “historic terms”.

“They need to give it a structure and a place and of course it has to be inclusive - we want to hear from every voice, including those for whom reunification would not be their first option - those who go out and campaign for the union.”


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Stovetop@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 03:36 next collapse

May as well, if it means rejoining the EU following the disaster that was Brexit.

HerrVorragend@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 05:18 next collapse

Watch Scotland and Wales ask a unified Ireland if they can join them too.

Pertes@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 06:43 next collapse

Ah yes, Great Ireland

Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 07:06 collapse

Imagine the English malding

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 07:41 next collapse

Eating Mald salt by the fistful

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 09 Feb 2024 07:46 next collapse

Not sure I’ve ever even met anyone who’d care if Northern Ireland split off. Maybe some Rangers fans?

Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 07:53 next collapse

Not just Northern Ireland, if Scotland and Wales fucked off with a unifed Ireland to form Great Ireland without the English.

thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 08:39 collapse

Can all of us English who despise what the elite have done with the country come too?

TheMongoose@kbin.social on 09 Feb 2024 08:18 next collapse

Not sure I’ve ever even met anyone who’d care if Northern Ireland split off. Maybe some Rangers fans?

There were literally decades of violence and terrorism over that, so clearly someone cares.

That being said, But then I'm Welsh and live in England, I do not have a horse in this race. If the people in NI want to unify with Ireland and regain all their EU citizenship benefits as well as removing the whole "Northern Ireland border issue", then I wouldn't blame them at all.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club on 09 Feb 2024 08:47 collapse

Wasn’t there like a few decades of violence/terrorism in Ireland pretty recently about this? I think there’s definitely people who care bud

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 10 Feb 2024 06:11 collapse

That’s not the English though is it? Everyone seems to think we care deeply about keeping Northern Ireland as some kind of vassal state, but mostly people just think about who’s getting kicked off Britain’s Got Talent this week.

WatTyler@lemmy.zip on 09 Feb 2024 08:31 collapse

Half us English are malding already; the other half find intermittent enjoyment in their malding as a coping mechanism.

Matriks404@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 09:09 collapse

Celtic Union rise!

ExLisper@linux.community on 09 Feb 2024 08:26 collapse

The entire Ireland is in the EU already. Northern Ireland can access the single market without checks. The checks are between Ireland and GB.

mea_rah@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 13:36 collapse

They are still part of a country that’s not within the EU. Even living in Ireland it’s sometimes a major pain to do anything in the UK. (Ordering stuff, returns, etc…) I can imagine it’s turned up to 11 in NI.

Cagi@lemmy.ca on 09 Feb 2024 03:46 next collapse

My God, right again. …fandom.com/…/Irish_Unification_of_2024

gregorum@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 03:49 next collapse

Beat me to it by two goddamn minutes, lol 🖖🏻

grue@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 05:15 collapse

Sinn Fein is running six years behind schedule. 😡

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 12:58 collapse

We’re due for the Bell Riots this year, too

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 04:06 next collapse

Hey I called this the other day.

You can really blame brexit for this, which means, you can really blame Russia.

beltsin@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 07:58 next collapse

Reunification is an insane idea that the moment. No need to risk the violence of the past for nationalist dreams.

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 08:02 next collapse

Why can’t the religious zealots put aside their bullshit for just a moment? Or does the king just deserve a chunk of Ireland for eternity?

when does it end if not now?

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 09 Feb 2024 08:33 next collapse

I think it’s more likely to have two independent republics on Eire than a unified one.

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 09:05 next collapse

For what? The catholics aren’t going to force their religion on the rest. 15% of the population identify as no religion at all.

But hey, if the ‘Northern Ireland Peoples Republic’ wants to go it alone whatever I just hope they join the EU because that bullshit brexit caused is not going away and it’s the biggest driver to reunification in my book.

maynarkh@feddit.nl on 09 Feb 2024 11:12 collapse

It would be harder to join the EU as a new republic than just joining with Ireland

beltsin@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 15:48 collapse

What does it achieve to unify now? A sizeable portion of the population actively opposes it, and besides that the Northern Irish economy is largely dependent on the British government, meaning that there would be significant cost to the Irish state were they to begin managing the north counties. They chose a century ago to remain in the UK and despite an almost complete lack of acknowledgment from the general British population fiercely defend that decision. It’s about more than just religion, though that can be a common grouping of the different factions.

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 21:28 collapse

What does it achieve to unify now?

IT SURE FIXES THE BREXIT CRISIS I POINTED OUT IN MY POST YOU NUMPTY

you know, the one that posted a fucking border checkpoint and restarted talk of the troubles? are you dense or did you just arrive to the situation, or are you completely disconnected from the situation you have no idea what the fuck is happening and just shitposting?

fuck off

A sizeable portion of the population actively opposes it

citation requested.

largely dependent on the British government

yeah when you live as a colony for some shitty island this can happen!

They chose a century ago to remain in the UK and despite

YES, AND THE UK JOINED THE EU THEN LEFT. SHIT HAPPENS. GET OVER YOURSELF. What kind of abusive relationship do you propose that keeps them there even if they want to leave?

beltsin@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 23:15 collapse

I’m not going to argue further with this aggressive babble. We had issues with Northern Ireland very recently and I do not want any of that to come back any time soon. Brexit didn’t do shit, those tensions have been around for decades. It’s absurd that you think I’m the one disconnected from the situation when in Ireland, Mary Lou has been lambasted for these reunification comments. And no, they don’t want to leave the UK. Go to Northern Ireland. It’s a strange place with strange people, and what they want is not what you want.

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 10 Feb 2024 00:22 collapse

I’m not going to argue further with this aggressive babble.

you have no argument, so that makes perfect sense. finally one aspect of logic you haven’t disregarded.

We had issues with Northern Ireland very recently and I do not want any of that to come back any time soon.

Northern Ireland had issues with your colonialist bullshit. Fuck off with it.

Brexit didn’t do shit

Oh really? Creating the ONLY LAND BORDER BETWEEN THE UK AND EU didn’t do shit?

Are you really that dense?

Here’s an entire wikipedia article detailing all the problems with the brexit and Irish Independence. en.wikipedia.org/…/Brexit_and_the_Irish_border Your premise is vapid. Your arguments are specious and weak.

Have a great day.

beltsin@lemm.ee on 10 Feb 2024 14:25 collapse

I’m going to assume you’re not Irish and don’t actually understand this because Christ you are inconsolable

mojofrododojo@lemmy.world on 10 Feb 2024 22:21 collapse

I’m going to assume you’re not irish and don’t understand shit about this because fuck’s sake you’re ignorant.

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club on 09 Feb 2024 13:48 next collapse

Except the question is pretty valid now post Brexit. I wouldn’t even be surprised if GB goes along with it as NI seems to be a lot more trouble than it is worth; a unified Ireland solves the trilemma.

xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Feb 2024 15:04 next collapse

I don’t see why now is any worse than any other point in time, frankly.

NI has a legal right to unify with the rest of Ireland if it is voted for in a referendum, under the good Friday agreement. So being able to reunify whenever they decide to is actually one of the key agreements that ended the violence in the past.

Squizzy@lemmy.world on 11 Feb 2024 00:16 collapse

We should adhere to the demands of violent mobs and not the consensus of the democratic process. You are right.

beltsin@lemm.ee on 11 Feb 2024 09:43 collapse

Mate they made Northern Ireland in an election

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 16:19 collapse

According to Data on Star Trek TNG, reunification is scheduled for this year.

Fades@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 21:44 collapse

I welcome the bell riots with open arms

noxy@yiffit.net on 09 Feb 2024 23:49 collapse

fades, their arms wide