That’s what ignorance is all about. They cared more about the disenfranchisement of their own people than the direct consequences. Ageism is what they wanted, and fascism is what they are going to get.
andybytes@programming.dev
on 09 Mar 11:12
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but somehow these little shits get access to guns. we have to save the children translates to we are losing our arses in this war and we need to scare and control the masses
TheLunatickle@lemmy.zip
on 09 Mar 16:29
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Which war is that exactly?
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone
on 11 Mar 06:25
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Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
on 09 Mar 22:14
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Not even close to being true.
They have a lot of farmland, and a lot of pests, so there’s a huge number of people who have a legitimate need for a firearm. There’s also a pretty strong recreational shooting community.
I don’t know why people think you can’t have guns in Australia, but it’s just not true.
redwattlebird@thelemmy.club
on 10 Mar 01:11
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Yeh people can get guns but kids would have a really, really hard time getting access to one. Knives, easy, but guns? No.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone
on 11 Mar 06:24
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It’s quite true that you can own a gun, and yes it’s not all that hard, but there are not many little shits getting a hold of them. If any.
Its not even remotely comparable to the US for example.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Mar 08:00
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The US is a whole different world though, they have some gun accidents that would be incomprehensible where I live.
Our laws are that a firearm has to be in a locked safe when not in use, and the rules around transporting a firearm are pretty strict as well.
People just have loaded guns in their bedside cabinet in the states.
Japan was a real life experiment for censoring access to porn. Why do countries want to follow a bad example? Start buying spy camera finders and protect your private areas in trains
Generally developed countries do not censor or limit access to pornographic or adult material. Japan is pretty special case and a very good study in this regard, and they have quite a lot of creeps and creep porn, relatively speaking. People like to assume that banning nudity or violence from young minds is going to make humans grow up with less screwed up minds, but turns out the exact opposite thing happened. I remember my favourite childhood game being Postal 2. I’m fully against violence as a grown-up and it’s been 2 decades since I hit someone.
kittykillinit@lemy.lol
on 09 Mar 20:54
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I don’t quite understand your argument. Did Japan ban (censor?) access to porn and that didn’t stop people from being creeps, or what?
EDIT: Forgot to answer your question lol - Yes, Japan has one of the strictest rules on pornography amongst developed countries.
My argument is quite long and hard to describe since English is my third language and this is essentially science.
Long story short, during development of brains, humans develop things they are going to enjoy doing, getting, etc that are often related to what was going on in your life at the time. So if you limit your child from enjoying candies, brain can incidentally develop lust towards sweets. It is believed that limiting your children from masturbating and seeing boobies during puberty can really screw him up as an adult. Psychologically and neurologically, scarcity can lead to development of desire. Intimate desires to see someone naked to the point you act on them (almost all men dream about seeing someone naked, but actually acting on your desires is whole another level of wanting) are a common thing in Japan.
I genuinely don’t know if my Postal 2 is a valid example, but I played some really screwed up games in my young years (10-15), I was fully aware that these things are screwed up, I knew the difference between right and wrong, and I grew up with that idea while exploring the fucked up side of the world, including browsing 4chan at the age of 13. Good times. Still, grew up as a loving human who’s anti-violence and anti-everything-evil
We came up with non-existing problem (kids have never had real problems with seeing nudity. See:Africa. They’re either disinterested or capable of processing what is going on without getting brain-damaged), tried to solve it, and created a real problem during this process.
Technically that’s not porn afaik and does not break their laws. One could argue they adapted, but I too don’t feel like claiming Hentai and others are a byproduct of censorship
Yeah, so what I’m trying to figure out is why you think Japan has lots of strict rules about it. As far as I can tell, other than the blurry genitals it’s pretty much the same as any other developed country.
Wait, are you saying that censorship of genitals is not a censorship of porn? I never said “lots of”, I said strict. Censoring nudity is strict in my opinion.
So back to the earlier question that if strict censorship led to “creep porn”, how do mosaics play into this? I agree that it’s strict and stupid to censor genitals, but what’s the connection here?
But I already explained that part in a lengthy comment about how scarcity leads to development of desires/lust, which can translate into weird porn categories like public voyeur or touching of private parts in public transport
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 11 Mar 06:06
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japan is famous for just censor genitals, but not porn in general.
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Strange that once you start having ways to make people identify themselves the government would expand it’s use! Who would have foreseen that?
Like some sort of incline that slants downward covered with lubricant.
a slithery ramp
A slimy slant.
I’m using this phrase from now on
A slobbered up shute perhaps?
Surprised Pikachu!
That’s what ignorance is all about. They cared more about the disenfranchisement of their own people than the direct consequences. Ageism is what they wanted, and fascism is what they are going to get.
but somehow these little shits get access to guns. we have to save the children translates to we are losing our arses in this war and we need to scare and control the masses
Which war is that exactly?
Inb4 the culture war
Huh? Australia has the world’s tightest gun laws.
Not even close to being true.
They have a lot of farmland, and a lot of pests, so there’s a huge number of people who have a legitimate need for a firearm. There’s also a pretty strong recreational shooting community.
I don’t know why people think you can’t have guns in Australia, but it’s just not true.
Yeh people can get guns but kids would have a really, really hard time getting access to one. Knives, easy, but guns? No.
It’s quite true that you can own a gun, and yes it’s not all that hard, but there are not many little shits getting a hold of them. If any.
Its not even remotely comparable to the US for example.
The US is a whole different world though, they have some gun accidents that would be incomprehensible where I live.
Our laws are that a firearm has to be in a locked safe when not in use, and the rules around transporting a firearm are pretty strict as well.
People just have loaded guns in their bedside cabinet in the states.
This is what the PH feed now looks like before login.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/25ff2374-32db-4889-b3e6-2d33ffd45b7f.jpeg">
It’s bizarre to see shitty softcore clickbait on the front page.
That looks exactly like YouTube
Japan was a real life experiment for censoring access to porn. Why do countries want to follow a bad example? Start buying spy camera finders and protect your private areas in trains
Ha-ha, the west would NEVER build trains you fool!
What? We have lots of trains. They’re great!
I wanted to add after 1960 but it wasn’t as fun
What did japan do?
Generally developed countries do not censor or limit access to pornographic or adult material. Japan is pretty special case and a very good study in this regard, and they have quite a lot of creeps and creep porn, relatively speaking. People like to assume that banning nudity or violence from young minds is going to make humans grow up with less screwed up minds, but turns out the exact opposite thing happened. I remember my favourite childhood game being Postal 2. I’m fully against violence as a grown-up and it’s been 2 decades since I hit someone.
I don’t quite understand your argument. Did Japan ban (censor?) access to porn and that didn’t stop people from being creeps, or what?
EDIT: Forgot to answer your question lol - Yes, Japan has one of the strictest rules on pornography amongst developed countries.
My argument is quite long and hard to describe since English is my third language and this is essentially science.
Long story short, during development of brains, humans develop things they are going to enjoy doing, getting, etc that are often related to what was going on in your life at the time. So if you limit your child from enjoying candies, brain can incidentally develop lust towards sweets. It is believed that limiting your children from masturbating and seeing boobies during puberty can really screw him up as an adult. Psychologically and neurologically, scarcity can lead to development of desire. Intimate desires to see someone naked to the point you act on them (almost all men dream about seeing someone naked, but actually acting on your desires is whole another level of wanting) are a common thing in Japan.
I genuinely don’t know if my Postal 2 is a valid example, but I played some really screwed up games in my young years (10-15), I was fully aware that these things are screwed up, I knew the difference between right and wrong, and I grew up with that idea while exploring the fucked up side of the world, including browsing 4chan at the age of 13. Good times. Still, grew up as a loving human who’s anti-violence and anti-everything-evil
We came up with non-existing problem (kids have never had real problems with seeing nudity. See:Africa. They’re either disinterested or capable of processing what is going on without getting brain-damaged), tried to solve it, and created a real problem during this process.
Just like, the mosaics? I’m not sure that was the reason for all the different weird porn genres Japan puts out.
Technically that’s not porn afaik and does not break their laws. One could argue they adapted, but I too don’t feel like claiming Hentai and others are a byproduct of censorship
Yeah, so what I’m trying to figure out is why you think Japan has lots of strict rules about it. As far as I can tell, other than the blurry genitals it’s pretty much the same as any other developed country.
Wait, are you saying that censorship of genitals is not a censorship of porn? I never said “lots of”, I said strict. Censoring nudity is strict in my opinion.
So back to the earlier question that if strict censorship led to “creep porn”, how do mosaics play into this? I agree that it’s strict and stupid to censor genitals, but what’s the connection here?
But I already explained that part in a lengthy comment about how scarcity leads to development of desires/lust, which can translate into weird porn categories like public voyeur or touching of private parts in public transport
japan is famous for just censor genitals, but not porn in general.
The genitals are censored in porn, not in real life. I get what you said, but…
If you get a document with redacted lines, then it’s a censored document.
In Japan, the post-war government attempts at controlling access to porn was but a bizarre journey, some with long-reaching consequences.
All this stuff to protect the kids, what can we do to protect ourselves from GREEDY OLD FUCKS WHO RUIN THE PLANET
None of this is to protect the kids
Yep, it’s to protect the power.
They own things. And those things are flammable.
How far away are we from political material about the opposing / opposition party requires an age verification check?
Would be nice if we had to give our consent to be advertised to.
Australia, started as a prison colony, remains a prison colony.
Ah, I can feel the desire for sin leaving my body. Thank you Australian government!
Coincidentally I can also feel the desire for crime entering my body…
Can people not just install a VPN?
Hense why my VPN is auto set to NZ (now its time to add AUS to the block list)
We’re a nation founded by criminals, its time to return to our criminal roots