It should be noted people in New Zealand are not fond of their current government, not their republican style bullshit. But like many countries the same people who voted then in will do so again at some point.
Nearly half the investors who have applied hail from the US, representing 85 applications, followed by China, 26, and Hong Kong, 24. Residents from countries across Asia and Europe make up the rest of the applicants.
My take on this situation isn’t any new idea, nz wants to monopolize their image of a political safe haven at a time where the majority of places we hear through the news is turning closer towards the right wing closed off side of government rule. Here in Canada, like most places, we vote in the lesser of the evils, but none of these rich fucks on either side want to truly improve the lives of everyone.
Back to the New Zealand article, I just see this as another toxic plan for their country.
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 23 Jun 15:20
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Fucking assholes who are makin the country worse fleeing. Good news is they will then shit up that other countries. bad news is once they crap it up enough will come back here and it continues constantly searching for the nicest spot in the turd pile to defecate on.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Jun 11:41
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I could warn you when you make the same mistakes and hope you’re smart enough to listen. Literally, nobody else I know has been, but one could try. 20 years, and people don’t need privacy because they “have nothing to hide.”
When the shit hits the fan, there’ll be good looting in those bunkers.
thevoidzero@lemmy.world
on 23 Jun 17:58
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We were thinking of moving using the skilled visa, which seems hard because we need a job offer prior to visa application. So if you have money you can just come?
Any Kiwis here can tell me if it’s a good country to immigrate to? I will have PhD soon, and want to contribute to open access research if possible.
So far the country looks great because we like slow life, but idk if that’s just for citizens or also for immigrants.
Nice place, but not particularly wealthy, and everything is expensive because it’s imported. Housing is expensive too. Also there’s the tension between the Maori people and the government. And the recent shift to the right hasn’t improved anything.
Seems like the right shift is kind of global. I don’t see any other country being a good choice either. And we did see the tension, and the haka.
How’s science though? Main problem we have here is that people don’t really respect science anymore. Which is something that we find really scary long term.
Hey there, a lot of our research institues are under budget cuts and some are being disbanded (callaghan innovation). I would suggest you contact universities and see if they are interested in any aspiring research fellows. I am a master’s student at Victoria University. My supervisor is currently in the works to help a professor (I think from MIT) come and work here. So even though my university is also under fire, I see a future where the immigration will actually produce a good environment for teaching and research here.
A big note is that we do have a right wing government at the moment, the most right wing it has been for sometime. Read on te tiriti and the hikoi against the treaty principles bill. We will have our next election in just over a years time, the last three polls show a preference for a left wing government.
Living costs are expensive. you will be spending a lot of money on rent (especially in Wellington) food and utilities. We have very poor public transport in the country, I hesitantly say our buses are okay but our trains are completely unreliable. A lot of our train routes end up getting replaced by buses because the trains are in such poor condition.
I have a couple friends from the US in Wellington, the main cultural integration I’ve heard them struggle with is the work culture. For the most part, work life balance is valued here, don’t stay at work after hours you will be repremanded.
Academia does seem a bit small for my field, and being an experienced professor probably would have helped compared to barely finishing PhD. I consider my skills flexible enough to work in a variety of industries, but to qualify for the skilled visa I’d have to find work in the industry I have degree in.
Our green list roles are a bit limited honestly, my partner does data engineering which isn’t covered in the list. She ended up studying and applying for a Post Study Work Visa. It requires you to complete a degree in NZ and then you can have up to three years to work and aim for residency. We have one year master degrees, this is what my partner has done. Perhaps you could even complete your PhD here, I don’t know what that process would look like though.
But… our international student fees are expensive.
Yeah, international fees are super expensive. As someone that has almost always received free education it scares me a lot. Funnily that’s still cheaper than paying US universities.
I’m almost done with my PhD so changing the lab would be more trouble than worth it. If it was allowed I could move and finish PhD remotely in 6-8 months, but I kind of need PhD for immigration points (no work experience in last 5 years). A post doc that pays well would be ideal. But I’m open to industry jobs as well.
Luckily my degree is in the green list for now. I heard they change it based on their demands.
RecallMadness@lemmy.nz
on 23 Jun 18:30
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Isn’t New Zealand the country that just suspended one of their elected lawmakers for doing a tribal dance in their parliament or whatever they call it? If I’m going to go somewhere else I certainly don’t want to go to some other bigoted country. I guess if I was rich enough to go though I wouldn’t care about that.
stringere@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jun 16:05
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Yes, Maori members of parliament performed a Haka. Here is an awesome video showing it and set to heavy metal:
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
on 24 Jun 16:33
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Hey New Zealand. Unless you’re looking to pour cement down their bunkers once they’re all safely inside, it ain’t worth the trouble to allow the rich into your country. All they want is everything you have in exchange for fucking nothing.
It’s because the fuckwits in charge at the moment are pretty much swallowing whole anything Atlas group spews out. Think slightly more sane, but less egocentric Trump and you’re getting close. Except there are 3 of them.
Cement on top of the bunker entrance is a good plan though. We don’t need more Theil’s here fucking over the average citizen to get what they want
peteyestee@feddit.org
on 25 Jun 04:09
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New Zealand is one of the 5 Eyes. Naturally what’s happening in America will expand there …That’s the overall goal …to take over the world.
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Yuck, New Zealand pulling a trump. I wonder who they’ll bomb.
Mordor, probably.
They’ll have to ask Australia very nicely to borrow a plane.
Or maybe their navy will ram a pacific island again.
It should be noted people in New Zealand are not fond of their current government, not their republican style bullshit. But like many countries the same people who voted then in will do so again at some point.
“Flock” lmao
“Rich people buy their way out of the fascism they helped build” seems more apt
The Hong-Kongers deserve a little sympathy, but the ‘rich’ part really does take the shine off.
A Flock of Seagulls was like 4 guys, so in that sense it’s not a bad flock.
Oh, RICH Americans. I rescind my click.
if you turn your mouse upside down, you can find the unclick button on the bottom.
You mean this ball?
Himmler was very similar…
if you let the rich ones in, they will turn it into New America. and you’ll have your own orange dick tater to deal with.
I’ve always thought New Zealand was a better version of my own country (Canada)…I no longer think this.
Fellow canadian here, what’s your take?
My take on this situation isn’t any new idea, nz wants to monopolize their image of a political safe haven at a time where the majority of places we hear through the news is turning closer towards the right wing closed off side of government rule. Here in Canada, like most places, we vote in the lesser of the evils, but none of these rich fucks on either side want to truly improve the lives of everyone.
Back to the New Zealand article, I just see this as another toxic plan for their country.
Virus spreads.
Fucking assholes who are makin the country worse fleeing. Good news is they will then shit up that other countries. bad news is once they crap it up enough will come back here and it continues constantly searching for the nicest spot in the turd pile to defecate on.
I could warn you when you make the same mistakes and hope you’re smart enough to listen. Literally, nobody else I know has been, but one could try. 20 years, and people don’t need privacy because they “have nothing to hide.”
When the shit hits the fan, there’ll be good looting in those bunkers.
We were thinking of moving using the skilled visa, which seems hard because we need a job offer prior to visa application. So if you have money you can just come?
Any Kiwis here can tell me if it’s a good country to immigrate to? I will have PhD soon, and want to contribute to open access research if possible.
So far the country looks great because we like slow life, but idk if that’s just for citizens or also for immigrants.
Nice place, but not particularly wealthy, and everything is expensive because it’s imported. Housing is expensive too. Also there’s the tension between the Maori people and the government. And the recent shift to the right hasn’t improved anything.
Seems like the right shift is kind of global. I don’t see any other country being a good choice either. And we did see the tension, and the haka.
How’s science though? Main problem we have here is that people don’t really respect science anymore. Which is something that we find really scary long term.
Not sure these days, but I assume they’d be in the same boat as the rest of the Anglosphere.
It’s basically warm Canada. My cousin moved there 30 years ago and said it’s so similiar he felt home as soon as he got there.
Hey there, a lot of our research institues are under budget cuts and some are being disbanded (callaghan innovation). I would suggest you contact universities and see if they are interested in any aspiring research fellows. I am a master’s student at Victoria University. My supervisor is currently in the works to help a professor (I think from MIT) come and work here. So even though my university is also under fire, I see a future where the immigration will actually produce a good environment for teaching and research here.
A big note is that we do have a right wing government at the moment, the most right wing it has been for sometime. Read on te tiriti and the hikoi against the treaty principles bill. We will have our next election in just over a years time, the last three polls show a preference for a left wing government.
Living costs are expensive. you will be spending a lot of money on rent (especially in Wellington) food and utilities. We have very poor public transport in the country, I hesitantly say our buses are okay but our trains are completely unreliable. A lot of our train routes end up getting replaced by buses because the trains are in such poor condition.
I have a couple friends from the US in Wellington, the main cultural integration I’ve heard them struggle with is the work culture. For the most part, work life balance is valued here, don’t stay at work after hours you will be repremanded.
Hopefully this is helpful :)
It was helpful, Thank you.
I’ll look into the politics.
Academia does seem a bit small for my field, and being an experienced professor probably would have helped compared to barely finishing PhD. I consider my skills flexible enough to work in a variety of industries, but to qualify for the skilled visa I’d have to find work in the industry I have degree in.
No worries.
Our green list roles are a bit limited honestly, my partner does data engineering which isn’t covered in the list. She ended up studying and applying for a Post Study Work Visa. It requires you to complete a degree in NZ and then you can have up to three years to work and aim for residency. We have one year master degrees, this is what my partner has done. Perhaps you could even complete your PhD here, I don’t know what that process would look like though.
But… our international student fees are expensive.
Yeah, international fees are super expensive. As someone that has almost always received free education it scares me a lot. Funnily that’s still cheaper than paying US universities.
I’m almost done with my PhD so changing the lab would be more trouble than worth it. If it was allowed I could move and finish PhD remotely in 6-8 months, but I kind of need PhD for immigration points (no work experience in last 5 years). A post doc that pays well would be ideal. But I’m open to industry jobs as well.
Luckily my degree is in the green list for now. I heard they change it based on their demands.
Taking a line from our Australian friends
Isn’t New Zealand the country that just suspended one of their elected lawmakers for doing a tribal dance in their parliament or whatever they call it? If I’m going to go somewhere else I certainly don’t want to go to some other bigoted country. I guess if I was rich enough to go though I wouldn’t care about that.
Yes, Maori members of parliament performed a Haka. Here is an awesome video showing it and set to heavy metal:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JddEXEJ8_S0
Hey New Zealand. Unless you’re looking to pour cement down their bunkers once they’re all safely inside, it ain’t worth the trouble to allow the rich into your country. All they want is everything you have in exchange for fucking nothing.
Yup , they will come in, destroy and take over everything…like a cancer.
I didn’t ask for this bs
It’s because the fuckwits in charge at the moment are pretty much swallowing whole anything Atlas group spews out. Think slightly more sane, but less egocentric Trump and you’re getting close. Except there are 3 of them.
Cement on top of the bunker entrance is a good plan though. We don’t need more Theil’s here fucking over the average citizen to get what they want
New Zealand is one of the 5 Eyes. Naturally what’s happening in America will expand there …That’s the overall goal …to take over the world.
America, Australia, UK, New Zealand and Canada.
Good leave we don’t want or need you here. You don’t care about this country and we can and will fix it when you are gone. Good luck New Zealand.
New Zealand is going to become an oligarch statelet as climate change gets worse and the rich increasingly take it over. This is just hastening it.