Russia snatches men from gyms in Putin’s new conscription drive (www.telegraph.co.uk)
from zaxvenz@lemm.ee to world@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 19:41
https://lemm.ee/post/61824928

According to witnesses, police divide those at the gym into citizens and non-citizens. Russians are taken to enlistment offices, where their military records are checked.

Non-citizens are accused of immigration violations and given a choice: deportation, or enlistment in the army, according to Current Time, an independent Russian news platform.

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empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Apr 20:05 next collapse

I can’t help but wonder how long it will be before Trump deportation flights start landing in Russia instead of El Salvador.

aaron@lemm.ee on 19 Apr 20:12 next collapse

Whoa! Spicy comment! Deeply thoughtful. I love these.

exu@feditown.com on 19 Apr 20:20 next collapse

Same to you

x00z@lemmy.world on 20 Apr 00:07 next collapse

Can’t have a World News thread without some Americentrism right?

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 20 Apr 04:17 collapse

doesnt he mean, to Ukraine frontline(under russian control)

KernelTale@programming.dev on 19 Apr 20:23 next collapse

3-6 months would be my guess.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 19 Apr 23:18 next collapse

How about Cuba? Is that close enough?

America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.

Our most famous black site, Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120. They are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That’s nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is already about 8 times larger than average.

HitlerPig has already signed an Executive Order authorizing it, and has awarded a $249 million contract to construct it. Its scheduled to be finished in 2030, but it will no doubt be built in stages, so the first portions of it will probably be available by the end of 2025.

The question is: Who do they intend to put in that new facility, which is far from any oversight by the media or the courts. It’s in fucking Cuba, which is controlled by…well, you get it.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:44 collapse

Its in cuba but its US soil.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:49 collapse

Seriously? It’s in Cuba, there is no US soil.

Soggy@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 16:54 next collapse

That’s the neat part, we stole it and refuse to give it back because it’s very important to have a permanent torture prison where laws don’t apply.

Fuck this country.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:59 collapse

Thats not what happened. We pay rent on that land.

Soggy@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 17:10 collapse

Hahahaha.

We invaded it during the Spanish-American war to “liberate” Cuba (remove competing colonial power from our neighborhood) and set up a permanent Naval base there “for their protection.” We then pushed them into an infinite contract for two thousand dollars a year. That price has since gone up: as of 1974 we have been giving then FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR, a pittance that the post-revolutionary government of Cuba refuses out of principle.

It is stolen. Human Rights Violation Land isn’t the only purpose, it’s also to punish Cuba for ever daring to defy us.

Fuck. This. Country.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 19:45 collapse

Cuba btw refuses to cash the cheques the US sends them. In my head canon Fidel used each and every one going over his desk as a cigar lighter.

Fun fact: It can be argued that the German Democratic Republic still lives on in the form of an Island gifted to them by Cuba. The island was not mentioned in the German unification treaty so the GDR still has territory, but Cuba argues that it was just a symbolic act, not actual gift, and the German foreign ministry concurs. But what about the foreign ministry of the GDR? They should at least be heard on this matter.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 19:35 collapse

It really is. The US took it a long time ago and now use it as a nearby place where it stores those its kidnapped without having to provide them with any legal counsel.

match@pawb.social on 20 Apr 00:03 next collapse

Nah, he needs Russia open for his own escape route when he has to get helicoptered out after protests close the Beltway

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 20 Apr 04:19 collapse

russias currently housing, SEAGULL, assad, Snowden(not by his own fault apparently) , originally Ms GABBARD.

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 20 Apr 04:17 collapse

putin may call on trump to do that, since many foreigners are tricked to fight for russia in ukraine.

MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 20:06 next collapse

So much winning.

andrewta@lemmy.world on 19 Apr 20:49 next collapse

Work out they said. It won’t hurt they said. Working out an hour a day never killed anyone they said.

adarza@lemmy.ca on 19 Apr 20:54 next collapse

deportation sounds like the logical answer, but it’s probably preceded by getting tossed in jail and forgotten about.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 21 Apr 16:14 next collapse

deportation in a black bag

BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 23:27 collapse

Alright, you are going to be deported to the front lines then

skvlp@lemm.ee on 19 Apr 22:25 next collapse

I’d say this is a good sign that things ain’t on the up and up for old Vlad.

NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk on 20 Apr 04:46 collapse

Particularly as I thought they don’t enlist people from Moscow and St Petersburg. Only those from more remote locations that they care less about

skvlp@lemm.ee on 20 Apr 07:18 collapse

Let’s hope that they have to enlist from Moscow and St. Petersburg real soon.

Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:37 collapse

We can only hope.

barneypiccolo@lemm.ee on 19 Apr 23:13 next collapse

When HitlerPig starts his wars, he’s definitely going to have a draft, if for no other reason than it will make people crazy. He won’t have a system, though, like they had during Vietnam, he’ll do it like Russia does it, and just grab military age men off the streets with no notice. They just won’t come home from work one day, and the next time they’re heard from, they’ll be on some front line in some war that will benefit the Sociopathic Oligarchs and/or the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

match@pawb.social on 20 Apr 00:00 next collapse

What’s the rate of fragging in the Russian army?

And009@lemmynsfw.com on 20 Apr 21:30 collapse

Self fragging for exemption

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 20 Apr 04:04 collapse

yes. pull me away from my family. give me access to weapons of mass destruction. throw me into a frontline battle where it’s super easy to disappear.

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I once pushed a 1989 Chrysler New Yorker with flat tires 50 feet because it was in my way while playing basketball. I was 11 years old. It took me six hours. when dad got home he wasn’t even mad.

I learned two things that day.

  1. if you impress them, nobody will ever be mad at you
  2. I am a determined machine that’s fueled off of high octane hate and rage. nothing will stop me from achieving my goals. I have yet to test my resolve against death but I have no doubt, that too will be no obstacle.
Dasus@lemmy.world on 20 Apr 12:48 collapse

throw me into a frontline battle where it’s super easy to disappear.

It’s not necessarily as easy as you’d think. It’s not like they point you towards the enemy and then you can go wherever you please.

You’re with your squad, and desertion is kinda frowned upon.

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wanderingmagus@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 19:57 collapse

Time to bring back the age old tradition of fragging. Also sandbagging, blazing maintenance and logs, blazing quals, sleeping on post, making up inventories and malingering.

Dasus@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 20:04 collapse

I’ve been through my conscription. I enjoyed it. Mostly because I knew it was mostly larping and not real war.

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(Yeah that’s the backside of my dogtags, and thus empty. I’m hardly gonna dox myself my photographing my social security number, lol.)

Unlike in Russia, where conscription currently leads to being fed to a meat grinder.

wanderingmagus@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 20:12 collapse

Currently active duty US Navy, enlisted, contract ends next year (if they let it end). I don’t think upper brass understands the level of shenanigans we will get up to and they will never know about. Or the level we already get to on the regular, including on nuclear weapons platforms and carrier strike groups. The amount of gundecking right now is already “I can’t believe this thing still floats” levels. I’d love to see what it looks like when every sailor’s a disgruntled insider threat.

Dasus@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 20:19 collapse

Ah. You wouldn’t believe how much I miss the shenanigans. (Only once did I wake up in the brig, but I was banned from leave a few times.)

The movies really don’t exaggerate it that much, lol.

wanderingmagus@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 20:25 collapse

I always tell people, the most realistic depiction of sailors is Down Periscope, and they never believe me lol

Dasus@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 20:27 collapse

I believe you.

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 20 Apr 04:19 next collapse

gymbros are often heavily conservative leaning people, make sense to star there.

0xD@infosec.pub on 20 Apr 04:49 collapse

That’s just not true. Tell me you’ve never been in a gym without telling me you’ve never been in a gym.

sexy_peach@feddit.org on 20 Apr 05:03 next collapse

Nono you don’t understand they’re anti-imperialist

Pilferjinx@lemmy.world on 20 Apr 06:10 collapse

Gotta fight fire with fire!

Novocirab@feddit.org on 20 Apr 18:56 next collapse

On the same topic: meduza.io/…/russian-police-are-raiding-gyms-sweep…

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 19:21 collapse

Non-citizens are accused of immigration violations and given a choice: deportation, or enlistment in the army

Deportation! Anything but joining the Russian army