U.S. will ‘soon’ annex Greenland, wife of top Trump aide implies
(www.arctictoday.com)
from ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 12:11
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from ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 04 Jan 12:11
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Former Trump administration official and wife of top Trump aide Stephen Miller, Katie Miller, posted Saturday on X (formerly Twitter) an image of Greenland covered in the U.S. flag with the text “SOON”.
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Can we move forward to a post-apocalyptic world already? I really like the foreplay, but I’ve been ready for years.
We need GTA VI first at least with a few months of playtime. Then WWIII has it’s window.
Rockstar single-handedly delaying WW3 for as long as they can
And TES VI
Can we still hope that Bethesda will turn out something half-decent? Having experienced the decline since III, I’m not too sure.
Elder Scrolls is gonna be mid but the next Fallout will be the most immersive ARG ever.
The nukes start flying at 12:00
Todd Howard at 12:01 “Hey guys, I’m excited to announce the launch of Fallout 5, our largest map in any Bethesda game, it’s literally the entire planet! Graphics will have 16 times the detail, unless you need glasses, and your carry capacity will be based on your very own actual strength. Weapon variety will greatly depend on which country or state you live in. We’ll be releasing this new augmented reality experience starting right after the first bomb drops. Oh and one more thing, we did run out of time on development, so we don’t have a Pip-Boy for you and there are no Vaults. Good luck!”
In trumps head: In trumps world: America is for the Americans, Europe is for Russia, and Asia is for Indians and Chinese to figure out on their own.
and america not part of ICC they just do what they feel like
Nope
Bloodthirsty psychopaths
The American people at their worst.
This isn’t the American people. It’s the will of thousands of the world’s most powerful multinational oligarchs — billionaires and old money millionaire elites (plus all their class-traitor lapdogs and puppets) — who are actively corrupting ALL politics and public discourse; waging class warfare, globally.
Murdoch is one of the most well-known examples, but I’m sure there are hundreds (if not thousands) of fossil fuel and military contractor investors or board members — you’ve never heard of — who are criminally corrupt psychopaths that deserve to be in the dirt.
These people’s only allegiance is to the almighty dollar. They have no real virtue, morals, or ethics.
Half of the American people voted for him. So it absolutely is.
Only about 2/3rds voted, so closer to 30% voted for him
Okay but that just means we don’t know what 1/3 would do.
If you’re one of the 1/3 of the dipshits who did not vote you bare full responsibility for this mess! You are part of the problem, you had a choice and you chose to support this idiocracy.
We know exactly what they are doing already. Watching the trains go by to Dachau saying “better them than me”. Watching their sons and daughters go to war saying “well I’m not really political”.
Feckless cowards. They bear full responsibility for the current situation yet you can’t count on them to do anything they aren’t made to do.
True
You know, sometimes I see all you non-americans pissed off that “nothing is being done” and think “know what? Maybe we should let the regime destroy the world.”
Compared to which alternative?
Countries could sanction the U.S. Block all trade with the U.S… Evict U.S. military assets from their land.
Just like the nazis in the 30’s. We’ve come full circle.
And the other 1/3 didn’t mind trump enough to vote. So yes, it is the majority of American people.
Because of the electoral college, getting out to vote when you otherwise wouldn’t have is almost entirely useless in most states as the party most states will side with is basically a forgone conclusion.
On top of that, the Republican party has spent decades making it deliberately difficult to vote by limiting the number of polling places, as well as limiting mail in voting.
The Democratic party on the other hand refuses to attempt radical economic upheaval that poorer US citizens desperately need because Democrats are still the “moderate” party that is in the pocket of billionaires.
The Republicans routinely promise radical actions that they say will make things better for everyone. They’re lying of course, but it’s hard to be exceptionally poor, have no access to health care and vote for the party that is not advocating radical actions on your behalf.
It’s 1 day every 4 years (2 including midterms). Even if the nearest polling place is 1 hour drive away. Even if your vote won’t be the deciding vote. In my country it takes less than 10 minutes to vote, but lets say it is 2 hours in the USA. That is a total of 4 hours.
If 1/3 of US-Americans are not willing to “lose” 4 hours every 4 years. And 1/3 of USAmericans directly vote for fascism. Then a majority of USAmericans are ok with fascism.
Every election is held on a Tuesday. Most of those people cannot afford to take a day off of work because capitalism has fucked them over so badly.
Republicans have also stymied any attempts to turn election day into a national holiday specifically for this reason.
You literally don’t understand voting in America.
BoTH SidES
Absolutely not.
Remember 4.7 million voters were purged from the rolls in 2024.
Yes too many didn’t care enough to vote but enough were prevented from voting to swing the election. Republicans are an anti democracy party
Always were. You know that bullshit they always spewed about “small government”? What they meant was NO government, because then the power is wielded by money and physical strength, i e fascism, just like they want it.
They don’t believe in democracy because they believe they must and shall rule regardless of whatever anybody else wants.
Just like a religion, just like a cult. Now look at them!
No, they live large government. It just has to be them and hurting people.
so where are the 70%? Why are they not on the streets? Why are they not protesting?
If they live in an area where their representatives do not vote for these policies, what are they supposed to do? Are they supposed to burn down local government buildings, when everyone in that local government opposes Trump as well? They’ve also already tried peaceful protests. Trump doesn’t care about that.
I also think the voting machines were rigged. enough proof of discrepancies out theremto show doubt in authenticity.
There’s definitely a number of statistical anomalies that map too cleanly to be a coincidence.
MANY people who wanted to vote were prevented from voting. Many votes weren’t counted. There were bomb threats across Atlanta. All of it was enough to swing the election.
hartmannreport.com/…/trump-lost-vote-suppression-…
Some Americans voted for this, but the majority did not.
The government represents the people, and in the US, the government is a very good reflection of the US as a whole.
Is it not the people who allowed this to happen by turning a blind eye? Americans always want to be the face of freedom and democracy but when it counts they do nothing.
Yes but also us Americans, so proud of our second amendment, are refusing to use it for its intended purpose.
Because the 2A nutjobs were always just that - nutjobs, looking for an excuse to kill people they don’t like.
and the ones i know found legal ways in the krasnov administration
Sure, but a lot of people also don’t want to get vaporized by a dot in the sky. Pretty much impossible to shoot a reaper drone down with small arms.
The only way out is through a general strike (unlikely to happen because the billionaire class has intentionally made everyone too poor, so citizens cannot last very long without pay) or through other countries dumping US bonds.
Money hungry. It’s all for the resources. They’ll do it relatively bloodless if you let 'em, but they aren’t going to stop till they are made to.
Fucking nazis rising from the grave…
I never thought I'd be on the side opposing the US in WWIII, but hey ho, here we go.
(And this might even mean I'm on the side opposite my own government depending on how things progress here in the meantime.)
As an American … I never thought that either 🫤🔫
I don’t quite understand how there are people that ever thought the U.S. was good. How could anyone look at their zealotous imperial superiority masturbation and not just be struck with revulsion is beyond me. It’s like the west collectively drank their kool aid and is only now slowly, and tentatively starting to wake up to how fucking insane that country is.
I’m 100% certain that they could invade and occupy Greenland and the rest of Europe would still be like “yeah but like… they’re the good guys?”
It was mostly other imperialist countries and their vassal states, why wouldn’t they accept another of their own?
I’m talking more on an individual basis. Countries I get.
Nationalism then. People love to feel important or like they’re part of something, even if they put no actual effort towards that end. Just identify with the place you happened to be born and convince yourself its victories are your own.
Interestingly the US is the least kool aid drinking of Western nations when it comes to managing ‘great power’ realpolitik. Its unabashedly imperialistic with carefully constructed domestic propaganda. It effectively convinces its subjects of its (false) moral legitimacy, generally speaking.
Europe is the most kool aid drunk at the moment. Stagnation, impending demographic collapse and vastly overestimating their standing on the global stage. Trumps crass handling of relations with Europe has been a wake up call there to say the least. Alexander Stubb’s (president of Finland) speech at the G20 was hopefully heard by and reflected on by EU leaders. Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US, mainly though complacency.
Yeah, during WW2, that’s not news to anybody
Can’t wait to see France and Germany justify that one.
They’ll probably just bend over at this point to be honest
Don’t have another choice, with our european army against the biggest army in the world from our own ally… Smh
An EU embargo of the US (including banning “services” like tech) would likely crash the US economy (probably the EU economy too). I think the EU will just allow the US to do whatever it wants though, with the wealthy just bribing all the important politicians and ramping up propaganda to promote far-right ideology.
So we don’t have a choice, to protect our economy we have to allow the usa to do what they want, right? I suspect far right ideology might even win as well… seeing at how popular they are becoming and all the propaganda from all sides fr
The EU is a US vassal so doubt they’ll put much thought into it.
Why are they like this?
Because there are systems in place which enable sociopaths and psychopaths to become the richest and most powerful people in the world and the world is never enough for them.
Because there are no consequences (short-term, at least)
Because Nazis no longer fear for their life
Didn’t you read their new national security strategy? They will use force and power to enforce peace (together with blackmail from their billionaire tech companies, if you investigate hate speech, desinformation or criticize them) instead of diplomacy. They never been part of the International Criminal Court anyway, from 1998, so they can do as they wish cause their army is insane smh this is all part of the plan, and continueing trumps work from his first term, america is for the americans, europe for ruzzia, and asia for china and india to figure out basically lol and they can use any dictatorian authorian power they like
This is the kind of imperialism that caused both world wars. Stop it now, or we all die in inevitable nuclear holocaust.
Don’t tell us, tell the oligarchs
They’re too busy being more obscenely wealthy than ever before. You’re gonna have to kill a few of them for this to stop.
Free Luigi
Gobshite b’jesus
They’ve already built survival bunkers. The nuclear Holocaust isn’t a worry for them. It’s part of their plan
Who wants to survive the initial strikes of a nuclear holocaust? I know I don’t. Why duck and cover when you can walk into the light and finally be free.
I mean, surviving long enough to put concrete down their vents has a certain charm to it.
The bunkers they built on Maori land? They offered them to new Zealand, remember? Oh… They really thought private land ownership protected them from the government/ people from taking them back at any moment?
America are working on their own holocaust, they built concentration camps and a secret masked police
We should stop using the term “America” for the USA. America is so much more than that one evil state.
youre technically right, but that ship has sailed. this isnt an argument worth having.
Not when Trump is done with it.
yhea, USA is so obnoxious we all know what when we mean America we aren’t talking about Mexico or Canada
We did it to the Japanese, we’re doing it to Mexicans. The cages have been there for over a decade with plenty of coverage but no one stopped them.
We have secret police known as undercover officers in unmarked vans. That’s just on the local level of militarized police.
We have the SS known as ICE that was set up to arrest brown people post-9/11.
We gave up freedoms out of fear and now they use that fear to arrest anyone who questions the state.
We’ve been the bad guys since the Patriot act. When people protested it and got beaten by police it was a meme in 2004. “Don’t trade me bro!”
We’re fucked. We only have ourselves to care for. Be kind to your friends and family, don’t listen to a god damn cop.
Yhea, this is not new, it has been planned and prepared by multiple administration for both parties.
Here’s the problem. War has always been the go-to solution when the USA had major troubles. At this point, I’m convinced World War III is inevitable. Simply because it’s the only way for the USA to try and fix its economy. Otherwise it’s recession or worse once the AI bubble pops.
The US already has access to Greenland’s minerals. Greenland is in NATO. The fat, orange murderer/felon/rapist is greedy beyond measure.
Lol it’s not about getting the US access, it’s about getting his personal business ties access at the expense of the American taxpayer/lives of American soldiers. He doesn’t care about wealth for the country, he cares about wealth for himself.
It’s even dumber then that. It’s because Greenland looks big on the map.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to rename it to Trumpland
The House already has a bill introduced and ready to rename it, for when they “purchase or otherwise acquire Greenland”: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1161
Can you yanks do that “well armed militia” thing some of you have been banging on about in defense of mowing down children with automatic weapons?
Half the yanks support this
The people who do that are the people who support Trump.
How has it not been made clear to you that the 2nd amendment people ARE Trump supporters.
Plus the firearms people have access to don’t work against the state. They really want people to try, but that’s the problem with left leaning people, we think before we act.
These fuckers are putting MRAVs and other armor in the streets. Your small arms fire just tells them where you are loudly and quickly.
We must never fight on their terms. We must never fight how they are trained.
Drones are the new meta in attacking an authoritarian state.
Build yours today.
At least until the state starts making early scourges and corsairs.
Coincidentally, Congress just restricted drone imports about 2 weeks ago…
The import and sale ban does not apply to drones already authorized by the FCC, meaning you can still buy and use existing models (like current DJI drones) until stock runs out, but future models won’t be available.
I guess just do nothing again? Leave your problems for the rest of us to deal with I guess, it’s the American way
Huge chunks of our problems are Rupert Murdoch (Australia), Leon Musk (South Africa), Peter Thiel (Germany), Congress (Israel), and the POTUS (Russia). Maybe the rest of the world can not bother with America’s problems, but deal with the ones you’ve sent us?
ignoring the decades of previous history of home made American imperialism.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam,…..
What?
your quick to blame current problems on foreigners, while ignoring that those people came to the us BECAUSE of its existing imperialistic politics.
They’re at best a symptom of a larger problem.
The current regime COLLABORATED with the Kremlin to get in power. As is a lot of other fascist movements in the world. I think we can safely blame a foreigner.
bush era regulations aren’t foreigners….
here’s the thing with Putin, he didn’t invent the flames, he just stoked them. The tea party was always this.
No, I’m cranky from people upthread putting all of the responsibility on us, when their countries ain’t so sweet and innocent. There’s a line a kilometer wide in fluorescent yellow between the 9/11 attacks back to U.S. imperialism, for instance, but Britain, Netherlands, Germany, and Russia all had their own brands of imperialism which are far more responsible for raising up those men to wealth. This is more a problem of class than nationality.
Literally everyone you just named is an American citizen
None were born here.
Ok?
You may not have an option, buddy.
Once the US starts invading other countries it’s kind of a one way street
Greenland is threatened again, and after Venezuela, people are listening. Mexico is threatened again and you bet your ass that both Mexican government and US army trained cartels are preparing. Mexico doesn’t have any army to speak of, but Mexico will be the US next Afghanistan. Bodies and blood will flow.
And how do you think it’ll end when the US tries to invade Canada?
Can they please just stop this madness
US started playing Risk without telling the other nations.
I’m going to fill you in on a little secret. Americans are a bunch of fucking pussies now.
I’m far more heavily armed than most. I could outfit my entire block, though they’re already armed; young, old, liberal, MAGA. Yes, even the little old black lady across the street.
What the fuck do you want me to do? I’m sick of these smartass posts. Give me fucking instructions and be clear or STFU.
Fuck me. Saw what looked like an ICE thing in Alabama today, put my Colt .45 under my leg while trying to get my immigrant wife the hell back to Florida. There’s a 12-gauge pump leaning on my desk 24x7 and the AR-15 leans on my nightstand. Being that there’s no ICE around here, want me to hunt some down a couple of states away? Be clear in your instructions.
I now lock my doors, have a gun in reach everywhere I go and live in fear. And you assholes, “LOL! Where my 2A boys at?”
They don’t realize that the military that our government has used in other countries will easily be used against us, and has far greater firepower than we could ever have. I’m armed, in case shit goes down, but I will not last long against the military industrial complex in the US. Not to mention a ton of people here are disabled and have not had real healthcare in years.
If just a group of us, or your neighborhood, for example, goes out against the government, the insurrection card will be played and everyone will be arrested, shot, and/or vaporized. It would take a fuck ton of people to rise up, and then you run into the same issue as the general strike. How do you keep people fed? We already can’t do that now, so we’d need to set up the infrastructure to be able to feed everyone while we weather the storm.
Well then maybe start getting rid of your fucking useless 2A that is responsible for so much death and tragedy if it doesn’t do THE ONE THING that’s supposed to make all that fucking death and tragedy worthwhile
Do explain your understanding of the Constitutional amendment process and how that might play out in 2025 America.
Either answer or shut the fuck up with your facile, childish notions.
“I support the 2A because it would not be political not to support it.” Orrrrrr you just like guns, and fuck the consequences.
Find some like minded people, take out some ICE personnel at night, take out their vehicles, make them all afraid to round people up.
Yeah this is the part they don’t want to accept because it’s ugly and it’s risky. It takes courage and conviction, and it takes planning and commitment.
There are very few people who can do this, and even fewer who can do it successfully and also live a reasonably normal life without getting caught. The problem is that all the 2A people got convinced they were the vanguard but never actually were told what that means. They bought into the hype but never understood what it really meant. Now when it gets real and it gets ugly they find out they never were that guy, and they just wanted to cosplay as that guy because the guns are cool.
The US government has made it so a well armed militia cannot overpower them in any shape or form. Want to tell us how to shoot down a drone at 10,000 feet before it vaporizes us? I’m all ears.
The only way this gets fixed is through a (unlikely, by design) general strike, other countries dumping US bonds, or if by some miracle the midterms actually happen.
The US military will be defeated financially, not on the battlefield. In the end, the US empire is collapsing for the same reason every other empire in history has collapsed. Ultimately they are not financially sustainable. When you build your whole economic model on continued expansion and exploitation, the whole thing collapses once you reach hard limits and can no longer expand.
Indeed, well put. It will never be defeated by US citizens, only if the bottom line of the military industrial complex is affected.
There’s a general strike happening after the midterms, its won’t be till 2028 though when that Congress steps in.
I’ll believe it when I see it. People in the US are only getting poorer and more unable to afford to strike (by design).
Have you petitioned your government to send MANPADS and other concealable, man-portable weaponry to groups in the US?
Because that’s realistically what it would take. The US and NATO countries started helping Ukraine it its fight by sending in these types of man-portable weapons, drones, etc. They’re they type of thing that’s small enough to be snuck over a border in large numbers. And they’re the types of weaponry that could actually allow militia groups in the US, armed with civilian weaponry, to plausibly resist the military in any real capacity. Of course, the only source for this type of weaponry is other nation states.
Realistically, any rebellion would need extensive foreign support. Just like every other rebellion/insurrection that’s happened over the last century or more.
So, I ask again, how many letters, emails, and phone calls have you made to your leaders, encouraging them to send military grade weaponry to US resistance groups?
Good luck figuring out a novel legal theory for dealing with the NATO treaty and all of Europe.
They still haven’t even offered a legal theory for destroying those Venezuelan boats.
“Because I can” is the legal theory at this point.
And Canada… tho Canada should be considered part of Europe soon enough.
Sorry, no, we don’t need another land border with Russia.
Greenland is part of the arctic. You’re already sharing a border with Russia. Canada isn’t exactly your buffer zone that you thought it was going to be. But you sure expect them to defend it being part of NATO.
Hence the word “another”.
“Buffer”.
No thanks, I don’t much care for shiny and slippery floors.
I said land border.
K you’re clearly not listening and ignorant.
And you can’t see that Canada has a massive land border with a country that’s indistinguishable from Putin’s Russia (and ruled by his puppet dictator).
Might makes right unfortunately.
Novel? Turkey and Greece will disagree with that
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Well… So the US invades Venezuela, murders a bunch of innocent soldiers and citizens, and we make jokes about Himmler’s wife not wanting to have sex with him.
Ooooh, burn…
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I’m sure Stephen Miller’s ass isn’t nearly as nice as that matador’s
Are they gonna do like russia; forcefully move greenlanders out and move magas in?
This can be a solution for the problem in the US tho
The US is great at invading other countries
It has not the first clue how to safely keep one.
In the past they toppled other legitimate governments by using the CIA to cause some sort of revolution and kill the legitimate rulers.
None of that has lasted, and in the case of Iran directly led to the current theocratic dictatorship (Iran today is directly the result of US actions)
If the US invades either one of Canada, Mexico, or Greenland, it’ll be fucked. Friends and allies won’t turn up to help, it might causea fucking world war instead.
I don’t understand why nobody stops this. Even the CEO’s and all just be able to see that this isn’t going to end well for anyone
But if the CIA has to do another coup that is their job security.
None of this large scale shit is ever meant to solve anything. Just extract value.
Historically, the poors loosw the most. So maybe it’s worth the gamble. So much technology is available to really 1984 the population when it is in a more manageable number.
It also helps to have gentleman agreements with the rich on the other side. Elon has a satellite and can communicate without you knowing. So there’s that.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re out of ideas. - The American Public
Be careful. The US actually is fantastic at invading other countries. At least we’re really good at the “bomb the existing regime to hell and topple it” part of the process. We’re great at invading other countries; we’re just not so good at running them after.
But this is the type of invasion the US actually is pretty good at. The US isn’t proposing taking invading and then hoping to set up an independent democracy that for some reason remains our friend. That’s what we tried in Iraq, and it failed because you can’t just impose your will on a foreign population. You can’t make someone love you. You can’t make a nation willingly adopt your style of government.
But invading Greenland? This isn’t a Middle East misadventure, invading a highly populated country. This is the US coming to a territory and saying, “this is ours now.” This means a few things.
First, winning hearts and minds doesn’t matter. Once annexed and legally part of the US, if they try to break away, they’re not just insurgents, they’re rebels. Look at General Sherman for how the US has treated rebel territories. In Iraq, the theme was always, “at the end of the day, we’re not going to be running this place, we need the Iraqis to be able to run it, hopefully without hating our guts.” With Greenland, the theme would be, “we’re here for the land and resources. This is US territory now. If some Americans want to secede from the rest of America, well we know historically how to handle that…”
Second, do you know why Greenland’s mining resources are so underdeveloped? It’s because there are only 56,000 Greenlanders. If they wanted to seriously open up their mining resources, they would have to bring in outside companies to really develop them. And this would require bringing in large numbers of foreign workers, mining experts, their families, etc. Realistically, the existing Greenlander population would likely become a minority group. Hell, the existing number of Greenlanders is so small, a rebellion could likely be dealt with by the US criminal justice system, the military wouldn’t even be required.
The annexation of Greenland would look nothing like the invasion of Iraq or even a hypothetical annexation of Canada or Mexico. Making the territory a US state would mean any American citizen could move there. Any company could bring in workers to start exploiting mining claims. It would look more like the annexation of Texas. (Where the US had thousands of US citizens illegally move to the sparsely populated territory, and then push for annexation.) And if there was any kind insurgency, the US would treat it far harsher than it did the insurgencies of Iraq or Afghanistan.
That’s not to say this would be a good thing, it wouldn’t. In many ways it would be much worse than the invasion of Iraq. It would be far more brutal and would result in the existing Greenlanders becoming a small ethnic minority in what is now their own country. And any insurgency would be brutally repressed in the manner of the US Civil War. And while insurgencies can pull off wonders, scale still matters. Whatever tiny insurgency a group of 56,000 people, people completely dependent on imported food and goods, can manage to produce? That is not something that can credibly stand up to the US military. Hell, it couldn’t even stand up to the FBI. They could raise some heroic 5,000 man rebel force, and the US could just have them all arrested.
At the end of the day, 56,000 people cannot resist the might of 330 million. Smaller nations can drive out larger foreign invaders, but only if they’re at least of a similar order of magnitude of population. Ukraine can plausibly fight off Russia. A tiny city state can’t.
Two things: One: The US economy will go down the drain the moment they try.
I think Ukraine showed us you don’t need much to destroy mining operations… And if the local population refuses to open mines, it’s because they don’t want to become an Alaska.
The US will invade more countries and the world won’t do shit.
Likely
This is just the begining. This pedonazi doesn’t stop just because people tell him too. He already told us his moves : after Groeland, he wants to take Canada because of the ressources so he’s gonna try something before the end of the mandate (that he wont respect btw).
Where are the trump/epstein files?
At this point the files are irrelevant. The connection is obvious, and nobody is fucking doing anything except saying “somebody [else] DO something!” while looking vaguely aghast.
The files only document the past; meanwhile the present is being actively fucked up both nationally and globally.
So please, let’s stop treating heinous global-reaching decisions as if they’re just a petty distraction from an open secret Americans have already decided not to do anything about.
At this point the Epstein files ARE the distraction. It’s another mueller report. We all know he’s a criminal and a pedo, but even if there is proof there will be no consequences. He is brutalizing brown people, invading countries and stealing millions from Americans. And you think all of that is the distraction. Come on.
I want every single person in the Epstein files to face justice. They won’t. They haven’t before and nothing has changed. They are just the distraction from other crimes now.
Not if hes ganked first
More shit from Magda Goebbels.
Won’t this be a direct attack on Denmark/Europe?
Also an attack against a NATO founding member, by another NATO founding member, making it the most confusing triggering of article 5 requiring the US to come to the aid of Denmark against itself.
Fuck it then, full send it. Life sucks for me so I’ll happily go die in a snow pit defending a fellow EU country.
I hope the good states ally with NATO to take down Florida, and allow Canada to give Trump’s Ballsroom the British treatment: Gone up in smoke and flame.
Ballsroom… omg…that’s the first time I’ve seen it called that. That’s hilarious!
I dream of this.
This threat alone is enough to show how much of a laughable alliance NATO is. America’s veto power already showed the security theater for what it is, but this is the final coup de grâce to the image of NATO being anything more than America’s lapdog.
This is Putin’s wet dream.
Why do liberals continue to assert American fascists acting on behalf of international finance and the O&G industry are always and forever a cat’s paw for the Evil Foreigners?
Is it really that hard to believe American plutocrats might be the primary beneficiary of an American campaign to expand America’s territory?
That’s not what was implied in the comment your replaying to, they just stated it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy and benefit from. Not that he or any other state or non state actor are pulling the strings.
And they are correct, strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US annexing part of a member nation, not to mention the collapse of NATO.
And I’m not defending anyone here, American and its rich rulers are pieces of shit, Putin and the Russian oligarchs are pieces of shit, and even though they aren’t doing anything wrong in this instance the leaders/authorities of every major player in geopolitics are also in fact pieces of shit.
Edit: and before you start, politically I’m best described as an anarchist in the fashion of David Graeber so not a liberal by a long sight
Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?
The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.
lol done here you’re not worth any more effort, with you being daft as a brush and all that.
In theory, he might not like a heavy foreign naval presence, but Greenland is already NATO aligned. So he’d be trading a NATO aligned region for a US-only region in exchange for a fractured NATO. Sounds like a decent trade. Also keep in mind practically speaking they are probably equally unlikely to actually boost military presence much, and if they really wanted just that, NATO would probably mostly let them do it if USA paid for it, without USA having to take it.
This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring. A USA versus European NATO scenario would be his dream scenario. See “Foundations of Geopolitics”, where it’s mostly about getting Russia’s opponents to fracture and ruin alliances:
Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.
This is also the book that makes annexation of Ukraine the top priority, that it must be secured before the broader Russian agenda can be executed. It also says they need to make the UK isolated from the broader EU. They know that above all else alliances must be broken for them to stand a chance to seize power.
A lot of the Trump plan for Greenland’s annexation revolves around love-bombing the existing inhabitants and effectively buying the island out. Incidentally, not unlike the Chinese plan for Taiwan or the original Russian plan for Crimea. This follows domestic efforts on the island for full independence that Danish intelligence believes has been exacerbated by American media and intelligence interference.
Obviously, ended up backfiring. But you don’t need a NATO invasion so much as a Color Revolution, which Americans have (historically) been pretty good at setting up.
However you slice it, Russia doesn’t benefit from this in any material sense. And constantly holding the Russians up as a boogeyman when the crooks leading this scheme are squarely rooted inside the White House, not the Kremlin, is as obtuse as it is xenophobic. “Everything I don’t like is The Bad Foreigners” is the mentality that produced Trumpism to begin with. Liberals leaning into it only guarantee more Trumps into our future.
Yes, but they won’t do shit when it happens.
Book of Revelation here we come!!
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In trumps world: America is for the Americans,
Europe is for Russia, and Asia is for Indians and Chinese to figure out on their own.
And apparently if trump wants something he will do it, and he’s building further on everything he already started in his first term, maduro, greenland. So greenland will deffo become american sometime soon I bet… Europe can’t do shi with this small army, against the american army, its one minute before 12.
Cuba columbia and mexico next ig
Katie Miller is just as much an evil idiot as her husband.
Distraction.
The content slop for the hogs.
But it’s also something Steven Miller has been sincerely lobbying for
according to some danish journalists the idea was started by Ronald Lauder, some US billionaire. (he has some companies that use water from greenland or some shit)
It’s even on his Wikipage…
“Aide”
At this point, we need to use force to stop Trump
At this point ? What was the threshold for you ?
Like some Establishment Democrats are secretly bootlicking Trump, and plus he claimed to have made antifascism a “crime” which violates the First Amendment (which allows for the freedoms of speech, of the press, of religion, of expression, to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances to the government and such). Seriously!
bootlicking the same donors of the gop , yes. just the other day SLOTKIN was saying “we dont have healthcare for the constiuents or what not”(paraphrase) but she is a AIPAC shill
We need to split the Republican and Democratic Parties into different parties
At this point it’s necessary. It was necessary before, but now it’s necessary too
Turn his own supporters against him. The younger ones aren’t stupid.
How?
Talk to any you know and post anti-trump stuff on websites like Gab where there are a lot of pro and anti trump users and very little algorithmic influence. Portray him as a war monger and an extension of bush/cheney. I’ve yet to see any memes make the comparison.
What do you mean by that?
Its risky, but …OK. I’ll tell Schumer to release the next memo. VERY strong language in this one. There will also be a walk out and a minute of silence, in both the Senate and the House (probably).
Maybe we could go to the extreme and get a UN resolution to condemn the US aggression?
Aren’t you being a tad too aggressive there?
More. We probably need UN peacekeepers in the US.
Many of us have been trying to get people to organize online to do that in real time communities on say Matrix and Stoat to inform, collaborate, strengthen each other, etc but people need to stop scrolling, and do.
The whole country as a matter of fact.
How do we get through to people who want to be entertained?
Plenty of us already are doing but we need way more
You mentioned Stoat
We’ll just put up flyers and be like door-to-door sellers, talking to people about class consciousness - it worked for Zohran.
Smart, true
We need socialism
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So much for “drill, baby, drill”
If attacking Venezuela doesn’t stop people from talking about the Pedo Files (aka Trump/Epstein files), then the orange cancer will go for something even bigger-- attacking Greenland.
What a fucked up time we live in. Sure would be nice if the Grim Reaper or Satan could, you know… Maybe we should all be suing McDonald’s?
You think the US isn’t capable of annexing hell after turning Lucifer into their bitch?
I know the US is cancer but they are humans and…humanity fuck yeah!
The last South Park season was truly on the nose.
Humanity must inherit all of creation.
Fuck satan, fuck God, fuck the pantheons of the old gods.
All of this belongs to us
he already is planning to attack cuba, mexico and other South american countries just to get epstein files off his back, plus anyone associated with the files will be relieved if the news stop talking about too. the DNC is complicit as well
That will be the end of NATO, from then on it’s unscripted territory for Europe.
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Meh, Europe has plenty of arms capability to see off Russia without the US.
But can we fight Rússia and the US simultaneously?
It’s like she’s trying so desperately to make herself an accessory to war crimes. Why you would aspire to be Elana Ceausescu?
Well, in America, war crimes usually make you a profit and get excused/vetod/protected by the govt. So there’s that reason.
It’s not like Americans are going to hold any of these people accountable. They’ve already failed to do so after Trump’s first term.
I think similar circumstances (at least in terms of frustration with there seeming to be no justice for the corruption and crimes they committed while in power) was what eventually drove people to join the revolution against Ceausescu.
I always felt it was kind of a barbaric way to handle the situation, but in hindsight, perhaps I was being too hasty to judge.
Who’s to say what will happen in the U.S. I would like to believe democracy will prevail and maybe if the right people come to power, the people in this administration will actually be held accountable through traditional means. That’s the most optimistic scenario but also probably least likely to happen.
There’s a good chance the government just crumbles completely, especially with the Trump administration trying to destroy what remains of the rule of law both internationally and domestically. On the one hand it seems like that is their game plan, but on the other there are several ways it could backfire on them, even without some kind of external uprising against them. Once they lose any expectation of legal protection, we could also end up with some faction within the administration turning against the others in order to take control. Who the fuck knows. Wild card.
Yes, anything can happen, in theory. In practice, and based on what we’ve seen historically in the US as of late, no one will be held accountable. America is ok with Fascism, and they’re OK with war crimes, especially against foreign nations. They’re generally proud to be bullies and to be asserting dominance with their elected thug.
These aren’t slanderous accusations or anything, it’s just the blunt assessment from a foreigner, given what’s going on. There’s a subset of Americans who go on social media and lament their country’s actions, and those people tend to get either offended, or depressed/resigned, when you highlight America voted for, and are enthusiastic about, their fascist dictatorship. But that minority outlier does not change that Americans en masse still support their government, even when their government has become a pretty clear fascist dictatorship to the rest of the world. Most of the country is cheering on war crimes and crimes against humanity. It comes across fairly explicitly as such through multiple media sources, from multiple countries etc.
Publicly, the rest of the world leaders are cagey about comments on Americas recent turn, because they’re all worried that America will attack them next. That’s not how your relationship with ‘allies’ should be, and many are moving to shore up militaries and cut ties with America as part of this shift. That sort of thing won’t change, even if America manages to have another election and a more ‘normal’ democrat wins that time around – because the world knows full well that America could flip flop the next time, back to even more hardcore fascist leanings.
Can you imagine how much more useful to readers this publication could be if they wrote plainly true headlines instead of couching what happened behind click-bait bullshit?
“Stephen Miller’s Wife Threatens Greenland with a Meme on Social Media”
Look, now a reader would know what actually happened.
Stephen Miller’s wife desperately trying to stay relevant with MAGA.
Trump is a true business genius! Why negotiate when you are bad at it and you also have the most powerful army and the most lethal weapons and the most pettiness in the world? /s
Don’t you mean “Redwhiteandblueland”?