Trump says he's ending 'all discussions on trade with Canada' effective immediately (www.cbc.ca)
from NotSteve_@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 18:31
https://lemmy.ca/post/46950945

U.S. President Donald Trump said Friday he’s terminating all trade discussions with Canada effective immediately.

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven day period,” Trump said in a social media post.

He says he’s pulling back from the bilateral trade discussions because Canada plans to move ahead with its digital services tax (DST), which requires web giants pay a special tax.

Set to take effect on June 30, the DST requires U.S. companies like Amazon, Google, Meta, Uber and Airbnb pay a three per cent levy on revenue from Canadian users — a policy enacted by former prime minister Justin Trudeau’s government that the Parliamentary Budget Office projects will bring in billions of dollars in revenue.

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NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 18:32 next collapse

How dare the Canadian government get American companies to pay their fair share for operating here [in Canada]

owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 18:35 collapse

How dare they charge *checks notes* the same thing Visa and Mastercard charge everyone in our entire country for everything.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz on 28 Jun 2025 02:35 collapse

At least they are not charging American Express numbers. (really blowing out your closest trading partner over 3% on netflix is nuts)

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 18:44 next collapse

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Ghyste@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 19:23 collapse

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SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:29 collapse

I bet you that the shell taste more like cheese then that pre-shredded shit on there.

dalekcaan@lemm.ee on 27 Jun 2025 21:56 collapse

I’ve had one.
It does not.
It tastes salty and orange.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 21:57 collapse

Oh wow.

EndOfLine@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 18:47 next collapse

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying…”

How has he still not learned that it is Americans and American businesses that pay the tariffs.

N0t_5ure@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 18:56 next collapse

He knows, but he also knows that his base is too dumb to recognize it, so he lies because raising taxes on Americans is unpopular.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:20 next collapse

I’m not certain what he knows or does not know. In any case, his message to MAGA is clear, Canada will pay, and they’ll believe it.

Nusm@piefed.zip on 27 Jun 2025 20:35 next collapse

I mean, he did make Mexico pay for the wall that he built. Right guys? He did, didn’t he? Fox News said that he did, and they wouldn’t lie, right?!?

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 21:01 next collapse

Of course he did! Do you not remember? It was in the summer of 2022. President Biden launched a surprise nuclear assault on France. Every major American city was leveled. With NATO in ruins, Mexico built a wall to hold back the tide of refugees above the border. They also sent humanitarian and financial assistance, thanks to a deal masterminded by Trump.

SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 21:17 next collapse

ERR3067 TIMELINE CATALOGUE CORRUPTION

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 28 Jun 2025 04:28 collapse

simspons did an episode of a retalitory french nuclear strike.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 01:42 collapse

Nah. Fox News is (usually) more subtle than that. They simply stop talking about fails. And that’s all it takes. Just stop talking about the fail and talk about something else. Why bother lying when you can STFU and get the same or better results?

Zorque@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 20:37 next collapse

It’s not so much whether or not he knows it, so much as how much he cares. He knows what he says will get his base riled up, and that’s what he likes. It strokes his ego and gives him more power.

13igTyme@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 2025 15:17 collapse

MAGA’s razor: it’s both malicious and stupidity.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:22 next collapse

That could be true, but he is dumb enough to not understand. Malice or ignorance are always possibilities.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:30 next collapse

He also knows that if he just repeats things people will believe them, even in spite of evidence they can see, feel and touch.

Eril@feddit.org on 27 Jun 2025 21:24 collapse

What a stupid timeline, in which the above is true🙄

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 28 Jun 2025 04:27 next collapse

hes also been obsessed with tariffs since forever.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 2025 15:25 collapse

He’s committed to the “big lie” strategy. And unfortunately it works well for what it does if you dgaf about consequences imposed by reality playing none of your games

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Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 03:15 next collapse

Oh he knows. He’s just compelled to lie by whatever that jelly is in his head that is a brain in normal people.

fodor@lemmy.zip on 28 Jun 2025 10:30 collapse

Right, but he can’t raise income tax very much, and he needs money to give to all the rich fuckers, so a big federal sales tax “disguised” as a tariff is a decent way to raise funds.

Alenalda@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 10:38 collapse

Don’t need to raise the income tax. The government makes up the money. Could simply turn on the printers and give to the billionaire. The cruelty is the point as it always is.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 18:51 next collapse

Set to take effect on June 30, the DST requires U.S. companies like Amazon, Google, Meta, Uber and Airbnb pay a three per cent levy on revenue from Canadian users

Good.

something_random_tho@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:57 collapse

It should be a lot higher, honestly. Encourage building Canadian services and using European services instead of relying on predatory American monopolies.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 20:11 collapse

3% of revenue is a substantial number.

However, even better:

The tax, which will take effect on 30 June and be applied retroactively from 2022, will impact both domestic and international companies, meaning American giants Amazon, Google, Meta, Airbnb and Uber will have to start payments from Monday.

Source

Exec@pawb.social on 27 Jun 2025 21:40 collapse

hah, imagine companies asking customers for taxes back from 2022

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 21:45 collapse

You know this is not how it works, yes?

Exec@pawb.social on 27 Jun 2025 22:04 next collapse

I mean it doesn’t stop companies trying to comply with the law the worst way possible

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 22:25 collapse

It is a corporation tax, not the sales tax.

They are using the turnover to estimate tax liability because taxing profits achieved in a single country by digital multinationals is bordering on impossible (and too easy to avoid).

davidagain@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 09:02 collapse

Yup. Companies avoid paying taxes in one country by getting their divisions in other, lower tax countries to charge the one in the high tax country so much for intellectual property and branding etc that they make a loss in the high tax country, which in some countries entitles them to a tax rebate. It’s insane.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 10:19 collapse

Which is why most of the multinationals should be taxed on turnover in a country taxing them.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 16:01 collapse

Yes and no. Companies will always try to pass expenses like tax onto their customers. My guess is they will increase rates on customers significantly to recover some of those unexpected retroactive costs in the near term with the side effect of increasing revenue above the 3% tax in the long term.

kubica@fedia.io on 27 Jun 2025 19:03 next collapse

Reminds me of a joke. The person that says it can quit smoking anytime they want, because in fact, they do it multiple times a day.

TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Jun 2025 04:01 collapse

Mark Twain, hundreds of times

TuffNutzes@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:10 next collapse

“We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying to do business with the United States of America within the next seven-day period,”

…proceeds to bomb Canada tomorrow.

WarmSoda@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:19 next collapse

Might as well. ICE killed a Canadian citizen.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 03:00 collapse

Maybe, but then he’ll learn why there’s Geneva conventions.

Jarix@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 05:19 collapse

Sweet Summer Child the world is not going to do a damn thing. We are all ducked

goldenquetzal@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:23 next collapse

He’s just pump and dumping the stock market again now that there’s no Iran to distract us

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 19:26 next collapse

This is the equivalent of that obnoxious kid in the neighbourhood saying they’re taking their basketball home and no one can play basketball any more … then after he leaves, someone else brings another basketball anyway.

alekwithak@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 19:27 next collapse

Is this the country version of DARVO? We killed one of their citizens in an ICE concentration camp, so now instead of apologizing we’re lashing out at them? Cool cool cool

Zier@fedia.io on 27 Jun 2025 19:37 next collapse

Canada needs to start cashing in their US Bonds. Let's watch the US economy start to crash.

NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 20:41 collapse

I feel like that’s probably our nuclear option and we’re holding out for now since it’s likely Trump chickens out again

regedit@feddit.online on 27 Jun 2025 20:52 next collapse

I hope not. Please do it. tRump and his shit-sucking base only give a shit when the leopard is dousing them and theirs in hot sauce. If crashing and burning this fucker and our country is what it takes to end him and them, don't wait! Do it slowly, like someone shredding important documents.

Bonus points if they or anyone does it each time this regime tries to lie or bury that pressure point. Rich people back this fuck-squad because they care about two things: their money and their lives. Threaten one and/or the other until they abandon him!

Zier@fedia.io on 28 Jun 2025 03:50 next collapse

Agree with @regedit Canada should cash in a few bonds, and when president felon freaks out, do a few more. Explain to the orange child that he needs to shut up about Canada, drop the tariffs and observe the trade agreements.
America deserves all the backlash the world is piling on it right now.
Republicans are vile scum, treat them with the disrespect they have earned.

Bytemeister@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 2025 15:33 collapse

Especially considering the rating of those bonds dropped after some ignorant spray-tanned chimp decided to skullfuck a functioning and stable economy.

redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Jun 2025 13:53 collapse

It’s Carney’s primary strategy. This plus the Canadian who died in ICE custody should speed up the sell off. Japan will likely join.

snekerpimp@lemmy.snekerpimp.space on 27 Jun 2025 20:06 next collapse

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D_C@lemm.ee on 27 Jun 2025 22:15 collapse

Too weak…

SirMaple__@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 20:17 next collapse

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ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 20:52 collapse

Canada geese are my favorite bird. I see them by the lake all the time. They are perfectly well-behaved, until you deliberately try to piss them off.

NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 03:04 next collapse

Right? They have a terrible rep but they’re pretty fair in my experience. The only time I’ve angered one was when I stepped too close to take a picture of her babies and she did this grass filled mouth hiss at me like a cat. Which to be fair, is fair

Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2025 09:52 next collapse

When I was 4 or 5 I went to the zoo with school and the woman who was showing us round starts telling us about these Canadian Geese and my teacher asked where they were from …the employee dryly says “Canada, would you believe…”.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 15:52 collapse
  • Sitting too close to the water with a nice sandwich can be interpreted as deliberately pissing them off.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca on 27 Jun 2025 20:17 next collapse

Snip snap snip snap snip snap

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 20:24 next collapse

We will let Canada know the Tariff that they will be paying

…that’s… not how this works…

Kirp123@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 20:47 next collapse

After all this time he still has no idea how tariffs work.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 02:56 next collapse

Doesn’t matter, it’s what his sycophants believe. If Trump does it/says it - it becomes the truth to them. It’s the result of a decade or more of brainwashing on tens of millions of trump fans by Fox News etc

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 29 Jun 2025 17:04 collapse

Or he’s a fucking liar.

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub on 27 Jun 2025 22:02 collapse

It works like that when you assume the other country will desperately lower their export prices and eat the difference so in the end it’s still sold at the same price in the country raising the tariffs. In practice the greedy capitalists raise prices in the shops at the mere mention of the concept of tariffs, even when the product is produced locally.

Cruxifux@feddit.nl on 27 Jun 2025 20:35 next collapse

I am so sick of having to redo all my estimates every time trump tweets about my country.

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 20:56 next collapse

Ah yes. So after that bottle episode called “A Visit to Iran”, it looks like the people making the show want to pick up the Canada War plot thread again. I’m guessing the dumbass protagonist threatens Canada a bit, before giving up and claiming victory. These showmakers are running out of ideas.

kibiz0r@midwest.social on 27 Jun 2025 21:26 next collapse

Canada should back out of the USMCA and stop respecting US IP

fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com on 27 Jun 2025 22:08 next collapse

If you don’t mind losing leg so the other guy gets cancer. Canada needs more time to detach first.

MrDrProfJimmy@lemm.ee on 27 Jun 2025 22:10 next collapse

Some of us never started

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 22:17 next collapse

It would be highly amusing for Canada to start making Star Wars films without Disney’s approval, along with a little “Come get me fuckers”.

HowAbt2day@futurology.today on 28 Jun 2025 03:38 collapse

With the Trailer Park Boys as the main characters. Bubbles as Han Solo.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 02:54 collapse

US already contravened it, thanks to Trump, CUSMA is pretty much meaningless now. That being said, Canada wont contravene our side, but we’ll humour the US in their bullshit just as we make better deals with reliable countries, leaving the US behind.

SoupBrick@pawb.social on 27 Jun 2025 22:06 next collapse

Conspiracy Time!

I wonder if they are trying to flood the ‘Canada’ SEO because of this recent event:

globalnews.ca/…/canadian-dead-ice-custody-florida…

Albbi@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 22:37 collapse

The deceased lived in the US for their entire adult life. It’s not like a tourist was snatched and died in custody. First, everybody should be outraged about this type of treatment happening to a human being, but there’s no reason for Canada to have anything more to do with this.

skozzii@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 22:32 next collapse

Bring in BYD …

skozzii@lemmy.ca on 27 Jun 2025 22:33 next collapse

His words have been proven to mean nothing. He just speaks without any thought, senile old man.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 29 Jun 2025 17:15 collapse

Trump uses words like squids use ink.

Squids are smarter, though.

Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 22:38 next collapse

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brown567@sh.itjust.works on 27 Jun 2025 22:54 next collapse

I’m telling ya! ICE is running out of money, and tariffs are collected by the DHS instead of the IRS. I’m betting tariffs are going under the table to fund it

davidagain@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 09:03 collapse

Yes, and that’s not even under the table.

NatakuNox@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 2025 23:54 next collapse

ART OF THE DEAL

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 00:16 next collapse

That’s definitely going to help him make a deal.

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jun 2025 00:23 next collapse

Lol Donald announced that he’s shutting up? Canada wins

BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 02:10 collapse

And U.S. consumers lose because, if there’s still anyone unclear on this, we pay the goddamn tariff and not a single person in Canada.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 03:49 collapse

Well there is counter tarrifs on some US goods we’d hypothetically pay… if we were still buying US products, that is.

BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 07:39 collapse

As an embarrassed American, I would urge you to boycott any remaining goods until such time as we’re not a Nazi shithole. Might be a while.

SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 13:50 collapse

Don’t worry… already on it.

BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 2025 00:15 collapse

Keep it the hell up and happy Canada Day!

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jun 2025 00:36 next collapse

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NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 00:38 collapse

He’s just trying to get our CDN back to an equal level with USD :)

intheformbelow@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 00:36 next collapse

I’m in favour of gradual weakening of the US leading to its ultimate dismantling. The sub-300 year experiment has clearly failed, so there’s zero reason for the US to exist in its current form.

NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 00:40 collapse

Yeah I kind of believe that NA would work better as a bunch of smaller countries in an agreement similar to the EU. I say that as a Canadian who’s politics aren’t as much a dumpster fire too

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 01:00 next collapse

Thursday, Canada signs huge rare earth mineral mining deal with Iceland Greenland, humiliating Trump.

Friday, Trump throws a tantrum.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz on 28 Jun 2025 02:14 next collapse

As is tradition

KumaSudosa@feddit.dk on 28 Jun 2025 10:05 collapse

Do you mean Greenland or did they do some deal with Iceland?

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 10:12 collapse

Ugh. No, you’re right. Greenland.

leds@feddit.dk on 28 Jun 2025 15:08 next collapse

It’s easy to remember which one is which, Iceland is green and Greenland is covered in ice.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 15:13 collapse

I was so focused on making fun of Trump that I messed it up.

leds@feddit.dk on 29 Jun 2025 09:27 collapse

Hey I was just making fun if the misleading names, probably viking misinformation campaign to discourage competition for Iceland

catty@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 15:22 collapse

Iceland = Bjork, Greenland != More ice-covered land than green.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 16:09 collapse

I love Björk. She’s small and angry.

catty@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 16:47 collapse

In the 90s UK Spitting Image did a whole sequence of “101 things to do with a Bjork” - she was living in England at the time being her awesome self. Go take a peek on youtube for it!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hex88k2fgAE

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 18:29 collapse

I have my own list of things to do with a Björk.

Cocopanda@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 01:03 next collapse

That means nothing. He will taco. Then Canada will get even more pushed away from our once great partnership.

Remember how Trump fucked up the election in Canada for the conservatives? They literally had it in the bag. But Taco showed up with his tiny mushroom dick.

Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2025 09:47 collapse

If people could stop putting that man’s meat and two veg in my head, that would be great…

garbagebagel@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 03:16 next collapse

Aw, even though Carney tried so hard to pass bill c-2 for daddy Trump? I wonder what their new excuse for the bullshit “border” bill will be.

Almacca@aussie.zone on 28 Jun 2025 03:48 next collapse

Yeah, well, Trump says lots of things. None of which have any meaning or worth. He’ll be saying the opposite next week.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 04:11 next collapse

Congrats to Canada on their newfound status of not having to listen to trumps noise anymore.

And no worries, America will be back soon on its knees groveling for lumber and fish. Just ship it through Mexico, itll be fine.

Revan343@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 04:16 collapse

Lol oil. Railcar from Alberta to BC, onto a tanker to Mexico, then railcar back up to Montana for the refineries that are tooled specifically for tar sands oil.

Sure it’s expensive, but oil from across the pond is about to be as well, or did Iran back down on that?

Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2025 09:46 collapse

I’d like someone to do the maths for me how much energy will be used versus how much is created after all that…

rozodru@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 11:00 next collapse

Well lets see I wonder what the reason for this could be. Could it be the deal we signed with Greeland on Thursday? Could it be the 2.5bil US companies owe us on Monday? Could it be the fact they murdered one of our Citizens? gee which one could it be?

Fuck em and fuck that country. I hate Nazi’s and it makes my stomach churn that I have to live above a nation full of them.

skozzii@lemmy.ca on 29 Jun 2025 14:55 collapse

Oh, but didn’t you hear? They hold all the cards, despite not actually holding any cards…

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 13:59 next collapse

Good. I was a bit worried that we’d make some concessions to end the tariffs. Once you’ve paid the Dane-geld you’ll never get rid of the Dane. We have other partners to trade with.

canajac@lemmy.ca on 28 Jun 2025 14:24 next collapse

Meh…I need to go for a shit…RS

catty@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 15:19 next collapse

If I were say… Disney, I’d consider planning a Canada Disney Land due to all the missed non-American’s avoiding tourism in Florida. Just Sayin’…

Bwaz@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2025 15:46 next collapse

We will let Canada know the tarrif that US citizens will pay to get Canadian products. That’s what he means, though he is too much a dumbass to know it.

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 2025 00:18 collapse

Wait until Tremp finds out all digital services now need to charge GST in Australia (10%) since like 10 years ago.