Retiredtoflorida@lemmy.world
on 27 May 18:26
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It won’t matter. They care more about gas prices than the heat. They will crawl back to fossil fuel on their hands and knees just to get a little more economic growth.
Well, if things continue this way, we might see oil losing its influence. If oil is getting more and more expensive it will make the move to renewables faster.
Sure, but the ship has already sailed when it comes to stopping carbon emission created climate change, that is already happening right now and at a worst case scenario strength. At best it will just slow down the added effect.
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world
on 28 May 02:34
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No one cares … most people don’t care … governments don’t really care … companies absolutely don’t care
Mostly because people aren’t dying yet … and even once they do start dying, most people won’t care that much if its just a few people who die once in a while in a few places here and there. The care that the world will have will also be based on the quality of the people who are dying … if they are older white Europeans, especially northern Europeans, then that is a cause for concern … if they are white Americans or Canadians, then that is a concern too … but if they are ethnic in any way, brown skinned or speak some other language other than English, then it doesn’t matter that much … and if they are African or black, then people will just gloss over that and think it’s just a normal rate of people dying in Africa.
No … the world won’t care until we start seeing hundreds or even thousands of people dying everywhere … we won’t care until we start seeing mass migrations of all kinds of people (white, brown, black, Asian, whatever) moving from location to location by the millions to avoid starvation, war and death … we won’t care until we start seeing pictures of mounds of bodies rotting in the open air because they had to be abandoned and survivors were too overwhelmed to do anything about it all.
Nah … we won’t care until our world and civilization itself is collapsing around us. And the generation to survive in the aftermath will wonder why the fuck we didn’t do something sooner to avoid all this mess in the first place.
Most people in Europe don’t have AC and even those who do have to deal with extreme energy prices. They’re about to care a whole lot more very soon. heat waves will become more frequent and far worse. People will rush to the streets and demand change. Governments will be toppled over this in the near future. Of course we’re pretty late and we’re headed towards much worse conditions already. People won’t experience a better climate during our lifetime no matter what we do now. But more heat waves will give them a taste of what’s coming for us regardless and perhaps remind them how much worse things are going to get if we don’t act quickly.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world
on 28 May 01:15
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nothing pisses me off more than the Ozone hole crisis.
Within a handful of years, the problem was found, studied, policies drafted, and problem solved with international cooperation.
but this similar problem somehow cannot be solved?
We solved it too well. I was arguing about climate change with someone and they used the fact we don’t hear about the hole anymore as proof that climate change is bs and is blown outta proportion.
The same with the forest dieback. A real problem that was relatively quickly solved and now people are like: “What about the forest dieback? Everyone talked about but nothing ever happened…”
Yeah, because we fixed it before it got really bad.
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It won’t matter. They care more about gas prices than the heat. They will crawl back to fossil fuel on their hands and knees just to get a little more economic growth.
Well, if things continue this way, we might see oil losing its influence. If oil is getting more and more expensive it will make the move to renewables faster.
Sure, but the ship has already sailed when it comes to stopping carbon emission created climate change, that is already happening right now and at a worst case scenario strength. At best it will just slow down the added effect.
Nah, we’ll move to subsidising it, actually we’re already there. Marvel at the size of them: www.imf.org/en/topics/…/energy-subsidies
No one cares … most people don’t care … governments don’t really care … companies absolutely don’t care
Mostly because people aren’t dying yet … and even once they do start dying, most people won’t care that much if its just a few people who die once in a while in a few places here and there. The care that the world will have will also be based on the quality of the people who are dying … if they are older white Europeans, especially northern Europeans, then that is a cause for concern … if they are white Americans or Canadians, then that is a concern too … but if they are ethnic in any way, brown skinned or speak some other language other than English, then it doesn’t matter that much … and if they are African or black, then people will just gloss over that and think it’s just a normal rate of people dying in Africa.
No … the world won’t care until we start seeing hundreds or even thousands of people dying everywhere … we won’t care until we start seeing mass migrations of all kinds of people (white, brown, black, Asian, whatever) moving from location to location by the millions to avoid starvation, war and death … we won’t care until we start seeing pictures of mounds of bodies rotting in the open air because they had to be abandoned and survivors were too overwhelmed to do anything about it all.
Nah … we won’t care until our world and civilization itself is collapsing around us. And the generation to survive in the aftermath will wonder why the fuck we didn’t do something sooner to avoid all this mess in the first place.
Most people in Europe don’t have AC and even those who do have to deal with extreme energy prices. They’re about to care a whole lot more very soon. heat waves will become more frequent and far worse. People will rush to the streets and demand change. Governments will be toppled over this in the near future. Of course we’re pretty late and we’re headed towards much worse conditions already. People won’t experience a better climate during our lifetime no matter what we do now. But more heat waves will give them a taste of what’s coming for us regardless and perhaps remind them how much worse things are going to get if we don’t act quickly.
nothing pisses me off more than the Ozone hole crisis.
Within a handful of years, the problem was found, studied, policies drafted, and problem solved with international cooperation.
but this similar problem somehow cannot be solved?
We solved it too well. I was arguing about climate change with someone and they used the fact we don’t hear about the hole anymore as proof that climate change is bs and is blown outta proportion.
The same with the forest dieback. A real problem that was relatively quickly solved and now people are like: “What about the forest dieback? Everyone talked about but nothing ever happened…”
Yeah, because we fixed it before it got really bad.