I am all for a government having strong protections for the wellfare of children, a child that is endangered by their parents should be protected.
But this talk about how “civilized” a person is and removing a child mere hours after birth after a decision made by a government worker with very limited insight into a culture that differs from their own is dumb.
If this is the standard, then it is just a question of time until children from poor parents are removed due to the parent’s failure to provide a luxurious and civilized environment that an upper class family could provide.
I am glad the system causing this specific crap is scrapped, and I hope that the situation is resolved in the least bad way possible.
StillAlive@piefed.world
on 01 May 07:54
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Swede here, I am a bit weary of articles like these, Sweden has faced the same kind of attention, and it has mostly shown to be overblown propaganda.
It is true that Sweden specifically has a rather extreme relationship to the state, we trust snd defer to it far more than other countries.
We also have a social services agency, which is not spotless, there are similar cases like the Danish case ongoing.
However, for the vast majority of people, as long as a child is healthy, attends school, and is not abused or denied their rights by their parents they have little to worry about.
It is true that the government focuses on the rights of the child rather than the rights of the parents.
Every child in Sweden get’s the same social benefits, regardless of the families socio-economic status, even if a child is born into wealth, they still get the money from the state, the reason is that this money belongs to the child, the parent is just a trustee managing the money.
That being said, home schooling is prohibited in Sweden, as a parent you are required to send your child to school, this is to preserve the child’s right to an education with a curriculum that meets government standards.
Another example, corporal punishment against children is illegal, it is classified as child abuse, there was a mess a few years ago when a Malaysian parent used corporal punishment on their child in public, and the government reacted.
It became an international incident, but I don’t remember the outcome.
These are just examples of the system works here, and there are plenty of people who hate Scandinavia and create propaganda against us.
Racists in beaurocratic power positions abusing tools and systems put in place to protect children, because theyre racists and bad people… I’m sure this is not only a Scandinavian thing… I’m sorry if you thought the north was heaven on earth but unfortunately, bad people that abuse both systems and people exist everywhere
random_character_a@lemmy.world
on 01 May 09:58
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Propaganda to somehow spin something negative on greenland for the US bullshit administration?
Probably. Internally in Denmark there has been an increasing attention on issues like this both in the last few years en general, but also esp in light of the whole “Greenland? More like my land” trump thing, which means that every horror story has been put under the loop of public and jurisdictional scrutiny this past year.
The only reason the rest of the world even hears about this, is because we internally are trying to fix it. And the only reason articles are being written about it, is because of American interest. Noone gives a shit about danish internal politics otherwise, never is there written about our internal going ons unless it accidentally either offends or capitulates to American interests… Last time was that fucking giraffe obduction, and the only reason that was a thing was again because of American sensibilities
Goddamn how sick and tired i am of America. I pray it goes the way of atlantis.
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I am all for a government having strong protections for the wellfare of children, a child that is endangered by their parents should be protected.
But this talk about how “civilized” a person is and removing a child mere hours after birth after a decision made by a government worker with very limited insight into a culture that differs from their own is dumb.
If this is the standard, then it is just a question of time until children from poor parents are removed due to the parent’s failure to provide a luxurious and civilized environment that an upper class family could provide.
I am glad the system causing this specific crap is scrapped, and I hope that the situation is resolved in the least bad way possible.
The fuck is going on in Scandinavia? https://www.norwaynews.com/mrs-chatterjee-vs-norway-the-real-story-behind-an-indian-mothers-fight/
Swede here, I am a bit weary of articles like these, Sweden has faced the same kind of attention, and it has mostly shown to be overblown propaganda.
It is true that Sweden specifically has a rather extreme relationship to the state, we trust snd defer to it far more than other countries.
We also have a social services agency, which is not spotless, there are similar cases like the Danish case ongoing.
However, for the vast majority of people, as long as a child is healthy, attends school, and is not abused or denied their rights by their parents they have little to worry about.
It is true that the government focuses on the rights of the child rather than the rights of the parents.
Every child in Sweden get’s the same social benefits, regardless of the families socio-economic status, even if a child is born into wealth, they still get the money from the state, the reason is that this money belongs to the child, the parent is just a trustee managing the money.
That being said, home schooling is prohibited in Sweden, as a parent you are required to send your child to school, this is to preserve the child’s right to an education with a curriculum that meets government standards.
Another example, corporal punishment against children is illegal, it is classified as child abuse, there was a mess a few years ago when a Malaysian parent used corporal punishment on their child in public, and the government reacted.
It became an international incident, but I don’t remember the outcome.
These are just examples of the system works here, and there are plenty of people who hate Scandinavia and create propaganda against us.
Racists in beaurocratic power positions abusing tools and systems put in place to protect children, because theyre racists and bad people… I’m sure this is not only a Scandinavian thing… I’m sorry if you thought the north was heaven on earth but unfortunately, bad people that abuse both systems and people exist everywhere
Propaganda to somehow spin something negative on greenland for the US bullshit administration?
Probably. Internally in Denmark there has been an increasing attention on issues like this both in the last few years en general, but also esp in light of the whole “Greenland? More like my land” trump thing, which means that every horror story has been put under the loop of public and jurisdictional scrutiny this past year.
The only reason the rest of the world even hears about this, is because we internally are trying to fix it. And the only reason articles are being written about it, is because of American interest. Noone gives a shit about danish internal politics otherwise, never is there written about our internal going ons unless it accidentally either offends or capitulates to American interests… Last time was that fucking giraffe obduction, and the only reason that was a thing was again because of American sensibilities
Goddamn how sick and tired i am of America. I pray it goes the way of atlantis.