What Trump's win means for Ukraine, Middle East and China
(www.bbc.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Nov 2024 21:20
https://lemmy.world/post/21711085
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Nov 2024 21:20
https://lemmy.world/post/21711085
Summary
Donald Trump’s return to the White House signals a shift toward “America First” foreign policies, emphasizing non-interventionism and trade protectionism.
Trump has vowed to end the Russia-Ukraine war “in a day” through negotiation, though critics argue his approach may weaken Ukraine’s position.
In the Middle East, he promises to bring “peace,” likely reverting to pro-Israel policies and a hard line on Iran, which could further destabilize the region.
On China, Trump may re-escalate trade tensions and take a tough stance on Taiwan by threatening severe tariffs to deter Chinese aggression.
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Ukraine is fucked as much as it saddens me to say.
All of Eu, starting with Poland and the Baltics.
Hasn’t Poland been amassing arms? I’ll admit I’m not well versed in the area, but one creator I like to watch continues to mention that Poland has been on a massive buying spree.
for now we can dazzle the most probable adversary with invoices
Yes, but there is a quite a gap between ordering tanks and equipment and receiving said order.
South Korean armouries might have to start working overtime soon.
Nah, Russia could barely handle a Ukraine with heavy restrictions on how they could use weapons.
Poland could kick Russia’s ass.
You’re forgetting that if Russia takes Ukraine it can use their resources to continue fighting.
Nazis were weak when they attacked Czechoslovakia and then Poland.
Russia already has vastly more resources than Ukraine, it’s not going to make any difference.
The argument was that Russia has no chance against Poland, because how it is doing on Ukraine.
But it won’t be Russia vs Poland it will be Russia + Ukraine + (whatever else putin gets on the way).
He also won’t have any problem sending Ukrainians to die fighting with Poles.
Either way, it’s a catastrophy for the european economy. The past 5 years will feel like a walk in the park compared to what’s to come if Trump follows up on his promises. We’re talking about mass migration like we haven’t seen in 80 years and inflation that’s magnitudes worse than we’ve seen the past couple years. I’m almost looking forward to our elections next year in Germany because right wing will almost certainly win and then crumble under the pressure of what’s likely to come.
The reason Russia couldn’t handle Ukraine was only because of huge amounts of weapons coming from NATO, more than half from the USA, starting from long before the war started with huge numbers of MANPADS and ATGM’s . If NATO’s resolve weakens, countries will fall one by one to Russia, as its military and production capabilities are still many times larger than any country in Europe.
The EU could easily take on Russia militarily even if the latter weren’t already neck-deep in Ukraine.
They’re really watering down the fact that Trump literally already tried to Withdraw from NATO completely.
Trump’s “concept of a plan” to end Ukraine war is easy, the day he is in office, he turns off the tap for money/weapons
Time for Europe to step up to bat for fucking once. We bailed them out of TWO world wars. This next one is on their doorstep, not ours, again. And on top of all that, America provided the MAD nuclear shield for the entirety of the Cold War.
I have been proud to support Ukraine from day-1 of the orc invasion. Now there is nothing America can do. If the Europeans don’t grow a fucking pair, to hell with them.
If y’all can’t stomach exterminating Russians, be ruled by them.
I was trying to think of a pithy retort but the best I can come up with is “fuck off you sanctimonious bell end”
Trivia quiz: which allied power was responsible for delivering the final blow to Nazi Germany? Hint: it wasn’t the US.
You’re delusional if you think America is responsible for “saving Europe” or whatever other fantasy you have dreamed up.
I mean allied victory was impossible without the lend lease, among other American support. That's just a fact.
It absolutely was…it was not russia. Russia would have drowned without the lend lease program and the tons and tons of material we sent them.
So go home.
And you got to profit massively off of this, with your industry in top condition while Europe was a pile of smoking rubble, allowing you to become the superpower you are today.
EDIT:
This one’s also quite ironic coming from a country whose balls are kept in a box on Netanyahu’s desk.
Ukraine drank the kool-aid, and fooled themselves into thinking that if you slap a “freedom and democracy” sticker on and cozy up to the West, they’ll always back you no matter what.
In reality, countries behave as paranoid amoral assholes for a good reason.
Ukraine 💀 Middle East 💥 China 1️⃣
Congrats to China, Russia and Israel. Ironic that Biden admin mishandling just one of these issues, even while handling others well, may lead to worst outcome of all three. Perhaps a tiny ME country just changed the course of history. In the dumbest timeline at least, for whatever that’s worth.
Sorry, in case that was unclear: These are predictions, not opinions.