from breakfastmtn@piefed.ca to world@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 20:37
https://piefed.ca/c/world/p/523679/russia-just-laid-out-its-ukraine-war-endgame-here-s-what-moscow-actually-wants
As the United States renews its diplomatic push to end Russia’s war against Ukraine, Moscow is making something clear: its position has not changed.
While U.S., Ukrainian, and Russian officials met for trilateral talks in January and again in early February — with another round expected next week — the Kremlin has used the same period to restate its position.
As Washington speaks of momentum and narrowing gaps, Russia’s most senior officials have publicly dismissed key elements of the proposed framework.
For three consecutive days, from Feb. 9 to Feb. 11, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov publicly undercut suggestions that negotiations were advancing.
His message was consistent and direct: Russia’s territorial and political demands remain intact, and any serious discussion must revolve around Ukraine accepting them.
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No, Russia “wants” an end to the Empire proxy war and the legit Ukraine government that the Ukrainian people wanted to be restored. Not the current Nazi empire puppet put in place by the empire in 2014. Of course I wouldn’t expect anything less from an empire propaganda outlet
Indeed, Putin is quite selflessly thinking of the Ukrainian people. That’s why he keeps killing them and destroying their heat and energy infrastructure in winter.
Ok buddy
Come on, they want a genocide of the ukranian people and to annex the territory.
That’s all this has ever been about. Money. Land and resources.
You have to read past the propaganda and evaluate Russian motives based on their actions, not their rhetoric.
Based on Russian actions and events, one can easily surmise they want to genocide themselves, and sabotage their country so badly that it will go from a 3rd rate to a 4th rate shithole.
They want China to annex the eastern portions and Europe to annex to the Urals because they hate themselves more than anything. As good a job as Ukrainians are doing, no one kills more Russians than Russians.
Also power.
Ukraine just before the invasion of Crimea had just discovered that the Donbas region had a massive untapped natural gas/methane deposit. It would have ended Russian control of EU methane. Its suspected that is why Putin has been pushing for all of Donbas.
Its also about trying to make all of the soviet bloc countries stay tied to Russia.
I really wish this war could be over so Zelinsky can get back to making hilarious sitcoms for Netflix
What fucking idiots. I feel bad for the (good) people there, but after all the pain and destruction Russia caused, I hope at the end of this they end up a broken, destitute, isolated nation too weak to ever be a threat to anyone else ever again…