Is this brics -boys luring usa into a trap? I saw news about this where someone estimated that war with Iran could “last several weeks” i think this would be more like russias 3-day special operation in Ukraine rather than Maduro’s kidnapping
Lembot_0006@programming.dev
on 19 Feb 06:59
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Why? USA and Iran don’t have any common borders, so the war is very easy to control: it will be running as long as the USA will be willing to bomb Iran. The quality of Iranian AA was demonstrated during the previous “war”.
What can Iran possibly do to harm the USA?
NewDark@lemmings.world
on 19 Feb 07:19
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Light the region’s oil fields on fire and mine the straight of hormuz.
Lembot_0006@programming.dev
on 19 Feb 07:28
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Their own oil fields? I doubt that’ll harm the USA. Especially now when they own Venezuela.
Closing Hormuz will be an inconvenience to a large variety of countries and I am not sure if that is what is good for Iran.
Iranian abilities are very limited and none of them are actually military. The world will easily ignore a temporary oil price spike as those spikes happen every time some shit starts in that region.
Iraq already did that in Kuwait and it accomplished nothing.
They even heavily armed the shore thinking the US would try a beach landing, and instead they were spammed with a barrage of missiles that stayed out of range of most of their batteries.
Iran would struggle to minefield the strait with the US navy just sitting on 24/7 standby.
Israel wants Iran’s current government to fall, the US just isn’t interested in doing a hard land campaign to accomplish it (yet).
They want it quick and easy like what Trump just did in Venezuela, but that’s just not possible with Iran, which is why they’re still open to negotiations despite Netanyahu showing up to the Whitehouse like its his own home.
The crux for the US is that trying to topple the regime via a military operation could easily backfire without a complete invasion. They’re trying to find a pressure point that will cause the government to fracture internally, but they probably don’t have any solid leads that could succeed, otherwise they would have done it during the protests.
Are you seriously asking, what downsides does a war have? The previous “war” wasnt “war” at least on usa’s side. A war in iran would mess with supply chains, tie usa forces and equipment to iran (which most likely costs pretty much) and im fairly certain they would be able to do at least some harm in middle east and probably by some terrorist attacks in usa also. But maybe im wrong and almighty usa would just be able to do whatever they want ?
Lembot_0006@programming.dev
on 19 Feb 08:52
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I don’t expect this “war” to be “war” either. Yes, the USA can do mostly as they please and nobody would dare to say anything.
Usa strikes iran, iran strikes usa aircraft carriers, boats, military bases, whatever and actually kills some usa’s soldiers unlike their “retaliation” last time. I dont think they can just pull back and go home after that and thats why i think this time it would be war. Im not talking about anyone else saying usa could or couldn’t do something, what i meant was you think usa can just do anything and be successful? As in i think attacking Iran isn’t as simple as going to Venezuela
Lembot_0006@programming.dev
on 19 Feb 09:09
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iran strikes usa aircraft carriers, boats, military bases, whatever and actually kills some usa’s soldiers
And? Ok, USA loses 2 patrol ships and 30 soldiers. What next? It is war? Look at Ukrainian numbers to see what the war is.
USA starts bombing Iran from distance. What is “isn’t as simple as going to Venezuela” here?
I don’t see anything serious that Iran can do in this situation.
Why would a group of countries that includes Iran try to get the US to bomb Iran? Is it perhaps more likely that the country which bombed it 6 months ago, whose leader Trump met with last week, would like it bombed? The country that’s a major weapons importer from the US?
I think both can be true at the same time.
While Irans target as part of the China-Russia-Iran coalition obviosuly cant’t be bombing of Iran I wouldn’t be suprised if there are at least thoughts about letting the US bleed in a war of attrition, especially from the Chinese side.
Ot honestly would be rational to make the best use of the situation.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Feb 06:23
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Really gobbling down on it for Israel zionazis
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
on 19 Feb 08:29
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trumps 1st attempt at IRAN, THROUGH israel only delayed epstein files from the news temporarily. hes trying to make something stick on the news, so people stop talking about israel. remember veneuzuala and minnesota, the news largely stopped talking about it.
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Is this brics -boys luring usa into a trap? I saw news about this where someone estimated that war with Iran could “last several weeks” i think this would be more like russias 3-day special operation in Ukraine rather than Maduro’s kidnapping
Why? USA and Iran don’t have any common borders, so the war is very easy to control: it will be running as long as the USA will be willing to bomb Iran. The quality of Iranian AA was demonstrated during the previous “war”.
What can Iran possibly do to harm the USA?
Light the region’s oil fields on fire and mine the straight of hormuz.
Their own oil fields? I doubt that’ll harm the USA. Especially now when they own Venezuela.
Closing Hormuz will be an inconvenience to a large variety of countries and I am not sure if that is what is good for Iran.
Iranian abilities are very limited and none of them are actually military. The world will easily ignore a temporary oil price spike as those spikes happen every time some shit starts in that region.
Iraq already did that in Kuwait and it accomplished nothing.
They even heavily armed the shore thinking the US would try a beach landing, and instead they were spammed with a barrage of missiles that stayed out of range of most of their batteries.
Iran would struggle to minefield the strait with the US navy just sitting on 24/7 standby.
Israel wants Iran’s current government to fall, the US just isn’t interested in doing a hard land campaign to accomplish it (yet).
They want it quick and easy like what Trump just did in Venezuela, but that’s just not possible with Iran, which is why they’re still open to negotiations despite Netanyahu showing up to the Whitehouse like its his own home.
The crux for the US is that trying to topple the regime via a military operation could easily backfire without a complete invasion. They’re trying to find a pressure point that will cause the government to fracture internally, but they probably don’t have any solid leads that could succeed, otherwise they would have done it during the protests.
Are you seriously asking, what downsides does a war have? The previous “war” wasnt “war” at least on usa’s side. A war in iran would mess with supply chains, tie usa forces and equipment to iran (which most likely costs pretty much) and im fairly certain they would be able to do at least some harm in middle east and probably by some terrorist attacks in usa also. But maybe im wrong and almighty usa would just be able to do whatever they want ?
I don’t expect this “war” to be “war” either. Yes, the USA can do mostly as they please and nobody would dare to say anything.
Usa strikes iran, iran strikes usa aircraft carriers, boats, military bases, whatever and actually kills some usa’s soldiers unlike their “retaliation” last time. I dont think they can just pull back and go home after that and thats why i think this time it would be war. Im not talking about anyone else saying usa could or couldn’t do something, what i meant was you think usa can just do anything and be successful? As in i think attacking Iran isn’t as simple as going to Venezuela
And? Ok, USA loses 2 patrol ships and 30 soldiers. What next? It is war? Look at Ukrainian numbers to see what the war is.
USA starts bombing Iran from distance. What is “isn’t as simple as going to Venezuela” here?
I don’t see anything serious that Iran can do in this situation.
Yes i can see that
Ok, we’ll see who sees better in a few weeks.
Is this some kind of a competition to you? :D
I have my reasons to hate Iran and I would be sincerely happy to see it burn.
Why would a group of countries that includes Iran try to get the US to bomb Iran? Is it perhaps more likely that the country which bombed it 6 months ago, whose leader Trump met with last week, would like it bombed? The country that’s a major weapons importer from the US?
Yes i know israel wants to get rid of iran. You think there can’t be any other countries or reasons to benefit from a war in iran, just a single one?
I think both can be true at the same time. While Irans target as part of the China-Russia-Iran coalition obviosuly cant’t be bombing of Iran I wouldn’t be suprised if there are at least thoughts about letting the US bleed in a war of attrition, especially from the Chinese side. Ot honestly would be rational to make the best use of the situation.
Really gobbling down on it for Israel zionazis
trumps 1st attempt at IRAN, THROUGH israel only delayed epstein files from the news temporarily. hes trying to make something stick on the news, so people stop talking about israel. remember veneuzuala and minnesota, the news largely stopped talking about it.
We need to stop these international terrorists from setting up bases wherever they like.
Putting US lives and fortune on the line to fight Netanyahu’s war of aggression for him.
I expect a war in March.