You need to clarify, the record show majority in favour.
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world
on 09 Jul 17:56
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The US voting system is fucked up and we’ve got a dictator, but even we don’t make a bill into a law when the nays outnumber the yays. Quorum rules exist for a reason.
So, what are some good encrypted alternatives to common messaging apps? Signal instead of WhatsApp/Messenger etc? Proton mail/drive/etc instead of Google? Any other suggestions? Would a mobile vpn help?
There’s a number of both work and private reasons why that won’t be feasible. Also, I feel that we should not surrender the whole of Internet because of this bullshit.
Signal instead of WhatsApp is generally a good idea, but WA is not covered by this law as they are end to end encrypting all messages. Switching to Proton Mail would help, using a VPN (most likely) would not.
Perhaps Briar? I keep wanting to try it, but don’t have contacts that also do. It runs offline through Bluetooth and WiFi direct as well as online through TOR.
What changes with the return of Chat Control 1.0—and what stays the same:
What is coming back: US tech companies are once again allowed to scan private messages without a warrant or prior suspicion. This affects direct messages on platforms like Instagram, Discord, Snapchat, Skype, and Xbox, as well as emails via Google’s Gmail and Apple’s iCloud.
What remains unchanged: Public social media posts and files hosted in cloud storage could already be scanned without this law. Furthermore, private messages can always be reported by users, or monitored by authorities using targeted, court-ordered wiretapping.
What is still NOT being scanned: End-to-end encrypted chats, such as those on WhatsApp, have always been exempt from these scans. Additionally, European providers of messaging and email services have never implemented chat control measures.
FergleFFergleson@infosec.pub
on 09 Jul 13:53
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This is just gutting to hear about. I’m so incredibly disappointed. I genuinely, and naively as it turns out, thought the EU “leadership” was better than this. :(
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Note that the law passed automatically because at least 361 MEPs did not vote against it, regardless of how many voted for it.
Yes this is a real thing in the EU, you can just pass laws on a minority if they really want them.
Straight out of the US/fascist playbook.
You need to clarify, the record show majority in favour.
The US voting system is fucked up and we’ve got a dictator, but even we don’t make a bill into a law when the nays outnumber the yays. Quorum rules exist for a reason.
Oh for fucks sake!
So, what are some good encrypted alternatives to common messaging apps? Signal instead of WhatsApp/Messenger etc? Proton mail/drive/etc instead of Google? Any other suggestions? Would a mobile vpn help?
Just go offline, I am so sick of everything being an opportunity for privacy invasions and money extraction.
There’s a number of both work and private reasons why that won’t be feasible. Also, I feel that we should not surrender the whole of Internet because of this bullshit.
I agree like but every direction is getting fucked at the moment.
Signal instead of WhatsApp is generally a good idea, but WA is not covered by this law as they are end to end encrypting all messages. Switching to Proton Mail would help, using a VPN (most likely) would not.
Perhaps Briar? I keep wanting to try it, but don’t have contacts that also do. It runs offline through Bluetooth and WiFi direct as well as online through TOR.
Threema…
Jfc
Huh? What is this for when e2ee is being exempt? Is it actually privacy measure in style “You will be tracked unless you use encryption”?
Howtheyvote show the reverse in the voting record. 314 in favour
Yeah, this article seems to have the numbers flipped.
This is just gutting to hear about. I’m so incredibly disappointed. I genuinely, and naively as it turns out, thought the EU “leadership” was better than this. :(
welcome
Why are the votes flipped in the article?