from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 14:02
https://lemmy.world/post/42808589
A prince, an ambassador, senior diplomats, top politicians. All brought down by the Jeffrey Epstein files. And all in Europe, rather than the United States.
The huge trove of Epstein documents released by the U.S. Department of Justice has sent shock waves through Europe’s political, economic and social elites — dominating headlines, ending careers and spurring political and criminal investigations.
Former U.K. Ambassador to Washington Peter Mandelson was fired and could go to prison. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer faces a leadership crisis over the Mandelson appointment. Senior figures have fallen in Norway, Sweden and Slovakia. And, even before the latest batch of files, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, brother of King Charles III, lost his honors, princely title and taxpayer-funded mansion.
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Oh, there will be fallout - it’ll be complete bullshit, and the worst offenders will walk free. But they will just use it as ammo against political rivals
If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say that the release of the Files were redacted in such a way to topple political adversaries in Europe. I mean that goal is part the Heritage Project 2025.
They very obviously redacted things like “don’t” in some PDFs I’ve seen. Hmmm. Don’t. Don T. Wonder why that was done.
I’m just waiting for the Michael Scarn - Dwigt case where something like Domald Trumo shows up.
What’s with the constant use of = throughout the emails? What am I missing there?
TLDR
quoted-printable encoding standard used in emails, combined with legacy line-ending conventions and Windows-specific file processing.
lars.ingebrigtsen.no/…/whats-up-with-all-those-eq…
Omg. 😯
I have been following British media a bit and unless I am mistaken, this Mandelson chap ran afoul of his Epstein conduct back in September, which was before the DOJ even started releasing the Epstein files as part of the Epstein act, which hadn’t passed at the time. The subsequent release and redactions seem to have exposed even more, but his goose was cooked before that.
Current allegations are that Mandelson handed Epstein extremely sensitive government information. I forget what Brits call it, but we’d say it was classified.
And it currently seems like PM Kier Starmer is probably going to fall with him, since he apparently knew about Mendelson’s continuing association with post-conviction Epstein.
Anyways, that one particularly seems somewhat unrelated to the redaction choices.
"And it currently seems like PM Kier Starmer is probably going to fall with him, since he apparently knew about Mendelson's continuing association with post-conviction Epstein."
we can hope.
The problem is that unless Labour finds the most competent prime minister in British history, the clock is ticking until Brits elect Prime Minister Farage. Association with pedophiles and bribery is only toxic for left wing politicians (including pretend-left like Starmer).
Or, they get a new party and win with it. Isn’t Corbyn starting a new one? They just need a more populist, more cut throat type of Corbyn to lead the new party.
Because with this labour party in charge Reform is getting in, pretending they aren’t betraying the country while they cancel the magna carta isn’t going to change that.
And indeed starmer already did more damage than the tories did in over a decade. They are really taking this lesser of two dickheads strategy to an extreme just as it’s reaching it’s doomed to fail moment.
Sorry but what is that opinion based on?
As a Brit I can assure you that a) he has absolutely most certainly not done more than the previous Tory governments to mess the country up. Lizz Truss, for only a single example, ruined the economy in 40 odd days. b) the prevailing opinion is not that he has been worse than the Tories. The reason many people say they want to vote Reform is precisely because they are a right wing party that are not the Tories.
I’m very curious as to what you think his government has done that is worse than the 14 years of austerity, wrecked public finances, crumbling infrastructure and over population that the Tories provided? Obviously you are entitled to an opinion but I struggle to see what facts it could be based on.
Cancelled the right to a trial by jury for up to 3 years in prison, from 1 passed in 2020, cancelling the magna carta without a fight.
Created a masterbaitorbase, to record every web page you have considered whacking off to, you know, for the kids.
Cancelling the right to protest in a disfavored protest, then doing nothing while serious charges are filed for taking part in sanctioned protests, and while defenses against those charges are disallowed. Another repudiation of the Magna Carta, without a fight, because it’s “your” team.
Bad faith terrorism designations based on your politicians say so. Prosecutions under that, bad faith ones at that, laughing about them starving in prison with no trial date. etc.
What else seems like I’m forgetting something here. I shouldn’t need to tell you the masterbaitorbase is just the beginning, that along with age checks they are going to put everything you say and do through half baked ai threat detection that will give secret social scores.
I don’t have the energy right now to go through why this is all so bad, but you should already know that frankly, to a degree.
If you are happy about how things are going, I would suggest getting checked for taxoplasmosis.
I thought these changes were still in the proposal stage? They are bad though and I disagree with them.
I don’t disagree with anything else you’ve listed. I’m just struggling to see how any of that is worse than what 14 years of a Tory government provided? On top of a ruined economy, failing public services, huge NHS waiting times etc. they also introduced the 9k tuition fees.
Are you a UK citizen? If so are you a particularly young one?
Because I can tell you now that if you were of voting age living through those Tory governments and you were living in the country, as me, you would be far more bitter about the 14 years of turning our country to shit than a year and a half of an incompetent slightly authoritarian Labour government.
The majority of people would say the same. The Tories were voted out by a sweeping majority in 2024 because of this. UK citizens loathed the party and a good deal many still do, hence the rise of Reform.
I understand why you are angry at Starmer’s government and your criticisms are fair, but I do not at all believe that your opinion that his government, over one and a half years, has been worse than the previous 14 years of Tory governance is founded on anything tangible whatsoever.
No I am an american and it pisses me off I seem to be angrier about changes in the homeland than you guys are.
Jury trials, right to protest, are bedrock, non negotiable values, that your politicians are the first in the west to cancel them should be a concern, not the least as the first to adopt these rights.
I see. A lot of people do see it as concerning. We’ll see if it actually goes ahead. Many people have made their opposition to it clear.
How do you feel about the current state of your own country and the values that seem to be at threat there, if I may ask?
Locking down the internet is a huge deal too, they are setting up every ip, every account, connected to a name and face and connected with all other information running it through half baked ai threat detection by companies like palantir to make secret social scores to determine everything. Not just there, everywhere, all this age verification, chatcontrol, it’s trojan horses, (or trojan sheep as the case may be,) to employ these new ai tools, to surrender the population to tech for a cut of the information, which will surrender your information to the US as well make no mistake. Obviously yours in the UK is “ours” already my special partner!
Very concerned here obviously as one would guess. We are fucked, I don’t want to see Europe also fall to fascists that have every intention of fixing elections for the worst people in the world to remain in permanent control. We will be helping your fascists, secretly and openly, any confidential communications with other candidates, scandals, etc, you should presume the US is sharing with the fascists to help them win, it doesn’t matter how much starmer strokes off the president. All of these changes starmer makes are guarenteeing “reform” gets the vote for reform, just as the Republicans did here, as “our” politicians, labour and the democrats, are running as status quo and deeply unpopular and not trying to be popular.
The west is going to fall like dominoes barring some real leadership that is not forthcoming because we somehow still trust the controlled opposition of the oligarchs that have captured all of our parties. The far right backed by Putin and now the US are the only ones running as reform, as populist albeit more fake populist as they are mostly scapegoating.
We need real leaders now, even if in just one country, in the UK, in Europe, it can spread.
Starmer is neck deep in this, the cynical cunt. He was chosen to side with Israel come blackmailing of politicians in treason or cancelling the right to protest and freedom of speech. Somehow quashing dissent on Israel is more important, them and their financial backers being on video fucking children held by Israel explains why they do care so very much more than they should.
Mandelson got outed last fall, I thought he was let go then, the guardian podcast in focus was talking about him. Just a year or so earlier he was unapologetic in his undying fraternity with Epstein, telling inquiring journalists if they didn’t like it they could go fuck themselves, kind of attitude.
He changed to contrite last year.
Trump never would have reversed course and encouraged the release unless his team had figured out how to weaponise them.
It’s almost as if the US is an oligarchy and that the ultra wealthy are able to govern the nation with political influence and shield themselves from the law.
This should be a wake up call to all citizens. It doesn’t matter who you elect. Your interests will never be represented until this oligarchy is broken up or destroyed.
Exactly. They own the US and are not subject to laws. Only you are.
Can’t wait until they extradite the paedo prince and stick him in that shit hole jail Epstein and Diddy went to
That pedo prince (Andrew) isn’t a Prince anymore. There is also the Norwegian creep, he’s being reinvistigated again. But that won’t take care of the real problem, will it?
LoL! STUPID Europeans! Who CARES if someone Rapes a Little Girl?
-Americans!
“Why isn’t the US government prosecuting the pedophilic billionaire death cult?”
My dude, the US government IS the pedophilic billionaire death cult.
Shame if international agents swarmed America to capture all these pedo billionaires.
It’s a shame that the US population is STILL waiting for someone else to come and fix the quagmire they have gotten themselves into.
And it’s a shame that the rest of the world is waiting for the US population to fix this quagmire. When has a fascist movement ever been taken down from the inside, or been contained just in one country?
yeah, like any good gangster tramp hires nobody that he hasn’t got some leverage over. They’re all covering for each other’s bodies in the closet.
You’re leaving out Israel
We didn’t need to release the files to know a lot of the people in them, so of course there would be no cultural shift when we confirm it. The physical evidence may matter in court, but not for public opinion.
“Muted” is one word for it.
Nonexistent is another.
The only person who seems to have suffered any real blowback is the “pussy is low carb” guy, who probably wasn’t raping kids, based on his presence in the files. Larry Summers had to give up his teaching job, but he’ll be fine. He’s got generational wealth.
Also, this is why Donald wants you all posting about him being a racist. Stay focused on Epstein.
muted = nothing.
That’s because Project 2025 flooding the zone blew out our Overton Window like the fucking Kool-Aid Man.
Sure, censure is also biased…
That’s because the unredacted European names are distractions from the redacted mentions of the orange lardsack.
“Muted”! Hah!
Hahaha!
(clawing at eye sockets) HAHAHAAA!
I wonder why they redacted the word “don’t” 🤔. Almost like someone called don with a last name beginning with t appeared so many times they needed to automate the redaction of his name.
Oh surely not. It would literally be illegal to teach a name like that. I’m sure they wouldn’t…
Well, with the biggest fish in the Epstein sea is protecting his own flock in the US. Here in Europe, there is still public scrutiny and there is justice.
And Israel
Who? I know of one guy from the UK - Peter Mandelson, as named in the article and summary. Who else?
edit: Have the Norwegian Royals been kicked yet?
edit: Oh, I forgot about Prince Andrew!
edit: Was that it?
Now do the US.
Far less changes in the same unreasonably short amount of time since these files dropped.
I’ve seen political pundits saying how bad the feeling in the Labour Party is and how no prime minister has ever managed to survive anything even remotely similar
But it hasn’t happened yet, Starmer has historically low polling numbers anyway, and i don’t think that many political wonks believed he would still be leader come the next election anyway
More muted. What a title. You mean, there were zero fucking consequences.
“Muted” is a weird way of saying that there will be no consequences at all and if you disagree masked men will show up and disappear you or shoot you in the face and call you a terrorist on tv if you’re lucky enough to have someone catch your execution on video
Because MAGA loves pedophiles … mostly because it is self love.
I watch a lot of YouTube about this stuff. Neither the randos nor the mainstream have asked the question I’m thinking 24/7 - how does any other sovereign nation know these files are compiled, involving their own leadership, and aren’t suing the US for access?
Because… that’s not how that works, ever. The ICC is opt-in, and the US opted out.
Those sick bastards should lose everything and then some. Their assets and finances should be used toward education, healthcare and public services which help the lower class.
US is the new pedo island from the looks of it