French PM says EU-U.S. trade deal an act of ‘submission’ and a dark day for Europe (www.ctvnews.ca)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 13:16
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zwerg@feddit.org on 28 Jul 2025 13:19 next collapse

It’s not been ratified yet. Time to put pressure on our MPs.

Rentlar@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 13:42 next collapse

I suppose it could be a bit like a union deal no? The negotiators have a tentative agreement and then would the members ratify it? (Would members in this case European nations or representatives in parliament or something else? I’m unsure.)

Nico_198X@europe.pub on 28 Jul 2025 20:21 next collapse

How?

zwerg@feddit.org on 28 Jul 2025 21:20 collapse

Write, email, telephone- whatever works best for you.

Nico_198X@europe.pub on 28 Jul 2025 22:15 collapse

How do I identify them correctly? Is there a site? I’ve not had much luck in this

KumaSudosa@feddit.dk on 29 Jul 2025 09:26 collapse

When would it be ratified? I can’t seem to find any concrete information

OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 13:37 next collapse

So many people, businesses, and countries have given Trump BJs to stay in his favour and all it does it show him he can come back and bully them again for more.

But I’m sure it’ll work out this time.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 15:18 next collapse

He’ll be tossing them out windows like Putin eventually

octopus_ink@slrpnk.net on 28 Jul 2025 16:50 collapse

I did most of my growing up in the 1970s, where the universal parental advice to every single child who was bullied was, “The only way to stop a bully is to stand up to him.”

Like so many other things Gen-X was taught in our childhood, I now believe it was just a hollow lie. Maybe my parents repeated it without realizing it was one, like so many others.

OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 16:57 collapse

That is the only way to deal with them. Problem is all the “both sides” bullshit in schools now where both the bully and the kid trying to stop his lunch getting stolen get punished equally. It’s changed how people think you’re supposed to deal with an aggressor.

octopus_ink@slrpnk.net on 28 Jul 2025 17:00 collapse

Thanks, good point, I think I just had a subconscious need to take a sideswipe at the reality that, had the US I was taught about in school not been a fabrication, we would not today be in the circumstances we are in.

I’m carrying a certain baseline level of rage pretty continuously since Jan 20, 2025, and it sometimes leaks out at inappropriate times.

Edit: No, since the morning of November 6th when I awoke to find myself having this reaction:

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Solumbran@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 13:44 next collapse

Yeah let’s not listen to this piece of shit, or this piece of shit government, okay?

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 28 Jul 2025 14:24 next collapse

I agree, fuck trimp.

Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 28 Jul 2025 16:19 next collapse

For once I agree with this asshole of child abuser defender.

synapse1278@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2025 08:52 collapse

Looking at your down vote count, it’s pretty clear most people outside of France don’t know who François Bayrou is. He is indeed a disgusting lying magot. Even though I agree with him about the US-EU deal, this doesn’t make him less of a coward, lying, fascist facilitator and religious extremist.

KumaSudosa@feddit.dk on 29 Jul 2025 09:23 collapse

Don’t really know him tbh, but the broken clock is right at least this one time

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com on 28 Jul 2025 13:50 next collapse

Every fucking time man

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332@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 14:06 next collapse

Why is France consistently the only country with a spine in here?

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 14:32 next collapse

Always has been, thanks to Gaullist “strategic autonomy”. The cocky old man has been proven so incredibly right these last few years.

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emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jul 2025 15:56 next collapse

They have nukes.

Rolder@reddthat.com on 28 Jul 2025 17:21 collapse

So does Britain but I guess they aren’t in the EU

emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jul 2025 17:26 next collapse

That, and France also has an economy.

shalafi@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 19:32 collapse

GOT DAMN! Unnecessary Roughness, 15-yard penalty.

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Jul 2025 21:11 collapse

13.716 meter*

shalafi@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2025 02:08 collapse

Can’t catch a break from y’all Europeans!

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world on 28 Jul 2025 23:35 next collapse

Doesn’t Britain actually have the US’s nukes?

BastingChemina@slrpnk.net on 29 Jul 2025 00:32 collapse

They are building their nukes but they are mounting them in top of US missiles.

So without the US they can’t use their nukes.

Rolder@reddthat.com on 29 Jul 2025 06:46 collapse

But its not like the US would be able to just take back the missiles that are already in service

ikidd@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2025 02:03 collapse

Britain is utterly spineless and it’s citizens more so. I think they used it all up in the Blitz.

mlg@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2025 09:08 next collapse

I actually think they’re trying to leverage it to gain back what was originally in place instead of caving in like everyone else.

Like right now Macron is talking big about announcing recognition of Palestine in September. He’s giving the US 2 months to bring a better deal or risk losing unilateral NATO support over American foreign policy in Israel.

I mean its good that they’re actually deciding these things for themselves, but if Trump hadn’t blown up the global market with delusional tariff wars and hanging “allies” to dry, France probably wouldn’t have blinked an eye for anything the US demanded so long as they get paid.

Prancingpotato@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 2025 13:44 next collapse

I find it quite depressing, considering that our current PM is exactly what I would call spineless.

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club on 29 Jul 2025 16:34 next collapse

The rest of Europe doesn’t want to take on the burden of an independent foreign/defense policy.

Western European countries get to enjoy their peace dividend while not needing to answer to their public about foreign policy. Eastern Europe is scared that Russian aggression is going to include their countries.

France is probably the only EU nation that can self deploy an expeditionary force or project power beyond its borders. France is also the only EU nation with a nuclear deterrent.

RedPandaRaider@feddit.org on 29 Jul 2025 16:58 collapse

Macron trying to legitimise his dictatorship (he gave the power to form a government to a party whose leaders he’s friends with that achieved only 5% of the vote) and garner sorely needed votes for the next election.

korsystems@lemmy.ml on 28 Jul 2025 14:34 next collapse

Van Der Leyen is a corrupted piece of shit

Rolder@reddthat.com on 28 Jul 2025 17:22 collapse

I thought we learned about 80 years ago that appeasement does not work

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 20:33 next collapse

We also learned that Nazism doesn’t go well, but apparently we can only maintain these lessons for one or two generations.

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca on 28 Jul 2025 21:52 collapse

We had a good run.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 29 Jul 2025 01:35 collapse

Some people did

Some other people learned absolutely nothing