Alarm raised over Chinese CCTV cameras guarding ‘symbol of democracy’ Magna Carta (www.theguardian.com)
from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 31 Jan 21:16
https://sh.itjust.works/post/54478309

Security cameras guarding Magna Carta are provided by a Chinese CCTV company whose technology has allegedly aided the persecution of Uyghurs and been exploited by Russia during the invasion of Ukraine, it has emerged.

In letters seen by the Guardian, campaigners called on Salisbury Cathedral, which houses one of four surviving copies of the “powerful symbol of social justice”, to rip out cameras made by Dahua Technology, based in the Chinese city of Hangzhou.

They have also written to the authorities responsible for the Parthenon temple in Greece, which is monitored by cameras produced by another Chinese company, Hikvision.

Cameras made by the firms have already been removed from sensitive UK government sites, over concerns that they could be remotely accessed by China and used to spy on sensitive sites.

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Pistcow@lemmy.world on 31 Jan 21:28 next collapse

Honestly, Id rather have China have access to my cameras than the USA. Any good replacements for Ring not based in the USA?

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 31 Jan 21:40 next collapse

Any good replacements for Ring not based in the USA?

Literally any wifi enabled doorbell camera that keeps working when you block it from accessing the internet. Then just VPN into your home network if you need to access it remotely.

Pistcow@lemmy.world on 31 Jan 21:59 collapse

Ring environment is more than that and its a shit ton more convenient that they have battery operated outdoor cameras that are wifi enabled, door sensors, mention detectors, etc with batteries that’ll last a month on a single charge with easily swapable batteries. Literally the superior product but now I have to deal with Flock.

QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social on 31 Jan 22:23 collapse

In that case, make sure you enable E2EE.

They definitely try to dissuade you from doing this with all of the “are you sure? You’ll lose access to all these features” warnings.

markz@suppo.fi on 31 Jan 21:41 next collapse

How about not installing cameras pointing at your neighbors

Pistcow@lemmy.world on 31 Jan 21:56 next collapse

Weeeeell you could use a defined boundary where its supposed to record. Mine only starts recording when you step on my door step while my dumb ass neighbors records and says “HI YOURE BEING RECORDED” when Im walking across the street.

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northface@lemmy.ml on 01 Feb 16:41 next collapse

The problem is not when and what it is recording based on how it is configured. The problem is that law enforcement can (by design) use a backdoor and gain access to these cameras for real-time surveillance, at will. Since they have access to the feed, they can also record it all.

Additionally, these cameras get hacked all the times.

The point being - if the cameras are up, they will be abused by others. If you really need cameras, put them inside your house. That way you’ll only invade your own privacy, and you won’t enable criminals to misuse it for spying on anybody else than yourself.

shiftymccool@piefed.ca on 31 Jan 22:40 collapse

I’m sure it’s definitely obeying all those parameters. Totally not recording all the time

wewbull@feddit.uk on 01 Feb 18:21 collapse

You can tell it is by the missing part of the image.

carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 01 Feb 02:20 collapse

like seriously unless you have stalkers, you don’t need that shit. it’s peak surveillance society paranoia

CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.today on 01 Feb 00:53 next collapse

I’ve been really happy with Reolink stuff. My old ONVIF-supporting doorbell camera died so I ended up replacing it with a Reolink because of their great home assistant integration and I ended up getting some more of their cameras. Their app is nice too, and recordings are all stored locally on microSD cards, no cloud account required.

jmill@lemmy.zip on 01 Feb 14:28 collapse

I like there being no requirement for a cloud account, but the storage being on a card in the camera seems vulnerable. What’s to keep someone from taking the card?

thehairguy@lemmy.zip on 01 Feb 15:40 collapse

They also have an NVR that you can connect the cameras to, it has a hard drive that can store data from the cameras if you don’t want to use an micro sd card for each

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 03 Feb 08:39 collapse

HikVision. Granted, they’re more suited for industries, not home

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 31 Jan 21:38 next collapse

over concerns that they could be remotely accessed by China and used to spy on sensitive sites.

Sufficiently advanced paranoia is indiciferable from magic.

Is it using a subspace transmitter? because anything else is going to be easy to detect with a firewall.

Like I think the UK should use British made cameras to spy on its people, but the paranoia around China being pumped out is ridiculous.

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Feb 15:52 collapse

Inb4 “Turns out all you need to ‘spy’ on them is Shodan” lmao.

northface@lemmy.ml on 01 Feb 16:46 collapse

It’s not like nation state actors (or APT:s working for them) would ever need to black-box hack their way into a network made up by cameras from a domestic company. They’d just put a gag order on the company and force them into handing over silent backdoor access. In order of preference: using an existing backdoor for LEO:s, adding a new one in a firmware update, or requesting all source code so they can develop an exploit on their own.

wewbull@feddit.uk on 01 Feb 10:17 next collapse

So people are concerned that Chinese cameras pointing at the Magna Carta will be used to… What?.. read the Magna Carta? That doesn’t sound like a bad thing. They could probably do with understanding that laws also apply to those that rule.

If they’re just working out that cheap cameras aren’t reliable enough for security, that’s something different.

Ilixtze@lemmy.ml on 01 Feb 18:14 next collapse

Looking at the state of the uk right now i don’t know if reading their carta magna is of use to anyone.

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 03 Feb 08:38 collapse

So people are concerned that Chinese cameras pointing at the Magna Carta will be used to… What?..

The obvious - make a list of people that are threatening CCP regime. If those people do anything else, then… well, we know what happens with Chinese speaking out against CCP

EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml on 01 Feb 19:26 collapse

Reads like typical sinophobic US propaganda