Israel to sue New York Times over article describing its rape of Palestinians (www.middleeasteye.net)
from IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 14 May 19:42
https://lemmy.world/post/46867322

Israel is preparing legal action against The New York Times after the newspaper published an article describing the rapes of Palestinian prisoners in its custody.

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) announced its decision to sue on X on Thursday, after the paper doubled down in its defence of the report.

“Nicholas Kristof’s deeply reported piece of opinion journalism starts with a proposition to readers: ‘Whatever our views of the Middle East conflict, we should be able to unite in condemning rape,'” a spokesperson for The New York Times said.

Kristof’s story contained harrowing testimonies of the rape of Palestinians by Israeli soldiers, which included accounts of prisoners being mounted by dogs, penetrated by carrots, and rectums torn by batons.

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SGGeorwell@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:11 next collapse

“We can rape anyone we want, and if you try to stop us we’ll destroy you.” -Israel

CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:19 next collapse

And POTUS

cranakis@reddthat.com on 14 May 21:24 collapse

The entire Epstein class.

GreenBeard@lemmy.ca on 14 May 23:30 collapse

Don’t threaten me with a good time…

tacoplease@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:23 collapse

"Stopping us from raping anyone is anti-Semitic! Remember the Holocaust!"

  • Israel
Megacomboburrito@lemmy.world on 15 May 05:35 collapse

“It’s not fair! We got genocided back then, so it’s our turn now!”

Corvidae@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:19 next collapse

Curious they’re suing the NYTimes instead of the various interviewees.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 14 May 20:44 next collapse

Those they are going to murder.

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 14 May 21:18 collapse

Silly, they cant murder a news outlet

7101334@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:55 next collapse

You sure about that? Bari Weiss has done a hell of a job. Granted CBS and all other MSM barely qualify as “news outlets”, but

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 09:08 collapse

Well, they’ve been murdering Journalists in far larger numbers than the rest of the World combined.

MushuChupacabra@piefed.world on 14 May 20:28 next collapse

Israel to sue New York Times over article truthfully reporting its rape of Palestinians

ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl on 15 May 00:21 collapse

I mean, there are literally videos of these Nazis raping a prisoner, they went to trial, the that genocidal state let them off without any punishment. After they returned home to parades and a heros welcome. There were actual terrorist raping a prisoner caught on video - then hailed as heros. Really disgusting scums I can’t understand why they even sue. For what? Everyone knows your terrorist forces will rape people. You can go watch the video right now. Wild.

AskMeForADickPic@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:30 next collapse

Sounds like something trump would do. Except he can’t because it would reveal heaps of proof that he is a rapist

Hello_there@fedia.io on 14 May 20:31 next collapse

What the fuck is their standing? Reputational damage of a country? Libel against a country? That isn't a thing.
Hope NYT can SLAPP their asses.

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 15 May 08:35 collapse

That’s what I was thinking. In what country can a foreign country sue you in your own country?

itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:40 next collapse

Remember they exonerated Israeli IDF rapists and then gave then Medals on live television and they are now celebrated figures in Israel.

The entire culture is sick to the fucking core.

ptu@sopuli.xyz on 14 May 22:01 collapse

They were also celebrating with nooses in the parliament when they passed the death penalty law

7101334@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:53 next collapse

People don’t like to hear it but Israel is just a young, technologically-accelerated America, with Christofascism swapped for Zionazism. American families used to have block parties underneath the lynched bodies of black people.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 15 May 08:43 collapse

…which only applies to Palestinians.

ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 20:42 next collapse

The claims about dogs seem quite implausible and call into questions the reliability of the rest of the the article, but I’m not sure how Israel actually plans to go from that to reaching the rather high threshold for providing libel in the USA.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 14 May 20:47 next collapse

They have been alleged by enough sources to enter the “believe survivors” phase. Plus, if Israel wants to disprove it, all they have to do is allow international investigators access to the Sde Teiman torture camp.

OwOarchist@pawb.social on 14 May 23:31 collapse

The claims about dogs seem quite implausible

How so?

ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works on 14 May 23:55 collapse

I don’t think it’s something dogs are physiologically capable of doing, and even if it were, I think it’s unlikely that dogs would be trained to do it on command.

MML@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 00:09 next collapse

Well don’t look up the toy box killer if you want to continue to believe that.

Warl0k3@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:36 next collapse

Probably best to give a content warning on that one, at least two of the investigators working on that case killed themselves over how fucked up it was. Really recommend giving it a miss.

The_Decryptor@aussie.zone on 15 May 03:07 collapse

Another victim, Angelica Montano, came forward with a similar story to that of Vigil. She said she had been held captive by Ray after Hendy invited her to the house to pick up a cake mix.

… Montano convinced the pair to release her along the highway. She was picked up by an off-duty law enforcement officer and told him what happened, but he did not believe her and left her at a bus stop. She also later called the police about the incident, but there had been no follow-up.

Yep, sounds about right.

MML@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 05:15 collapse

I believe something like 139 people knew about it before he was caught too. It doesn’t list a number

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 15 May 00:48 next collapse

Klaus Barbie did it to Jews during the Holocaust.

bold_atlas@lemmy.world on 15 May 02:11 collapse

Sorry to darken your world a little but rape and forced pregnancy are just things we do as a species. From pigs to horses, to enslaved people. We’ve been force breeding domesticated animals for longer than we’ve have had civilization. Yes we know how to make them hard and they and can be trained them to rape each other on command. That’s how puppy mills work. All you have to do is force a human being to be in the place of a female animal being impregnated.

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lmdnw@lemmy.world on 14 May 20:48 next collapse

Performative. Israel will never allow for discovery or let any leadership take the stand. Everyday I hope for more dead IDF. Every time a Zionist or any religious fundamentalist dies, the world moves closer to reason.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 14 May 21:21 next collapse

Atheist Zionists aren't any less insufferable, though.

SparroHawc@piefed.world on 14 May 21:26 collapse

‘Zionist’ is separate from ‘any religious fundamentalist’. Creative interpretation supports your statement. :)

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 15 May 08:48 collapse

It’s rabid nationalism. Most Jews (and most Israelis) are secular, though they might light a candle once a year.

Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 09:01 collapse

Zionism is not grounded on Nationalism, it’s grounded on Ethnic Supremacy.

This is why it’s far more calously violent towards those they see as being from lesser races (openly called “vermin” by some Zionists).

Traditional Fascism, like in Italy or Spain, is grounded on Nationalism so is way less likely to do things like activelly target and murder children like Israel did in Gaza (were, for example, they had snipers killing children playing at home).

If you want a present day example of this kind of thing “just” anchored on rabid nationalism, look at Russia - murderous, but they generally don’t go around mass murdering Ukranian civilians, much less calously murdering Ukranian children. For all the shit Russia does, they’re not actually trying to wipe out a people, they’re trying to conquer it.

Zionism is in a different class of ideology: the same as NAZIsm.

(Israel itself is openly an ethnic supremacist country, with its Constitution explicitly saying that Jews and only Jews can be Israeli Nationals, so non-Jews born in Israel if they do manage to get it - as it’s not an inherent right for those born there - can get Israeli Non-Jewish Citizenship, which is not the same as Nationality in Israel and does not grant the same rights. Maybe your confusion comes from there - Zionist is not about the Nation, it’s all about the Race, and as it just so happens the nation of Israel is also all about the very same race)

Krusty@quokk.au on 14 May 23:25 next collapse

Religious or not, everyone has a system of beliefs.

iglou@programming.dev on 15 May 00:15 next collapse

Yes, and the problem is not having beliefs, but the organizations exploiting and weaponizing them.

tacoplease@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:25 collapse

If your belief system says it’s okay to rape and murder others who don’t share your belief system, then your belief system should die.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 15 May 08:49 collapse

It’s not about religion, they just want to steal their land and houses.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 15 May 08:46 collapse

/Singing akong with Bob Vylan.

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca on 14 May 21:02 next collapse

Anybody can sue anybody for anything, doesn’t make it true.

Seppo@sopuli.xyz on 14 May 21:07 next collapse

Society really needs to realise that these are racist cultists who sexually mutilate children.

Siegfried@lemmy.world on 14 May 21:16 next collapse

Streisand effect, i trust you

Grimy@lemmy.world on 14 May 22:25 collapse

I thought the same thing right away and it makes the whole thing seem like a dystopian dark comedy. What a nightmare.

henfredemars@lemdro.id on 14 May 22:46 next collapse

Maybe this will Streisand effect the reality of the Israeli rapes.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe on 14 May 23:40 next collapse

WHAT? ISRAEL HAS BEEN RAPING PALESTINIAN PRISONERS?

7101334@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:51 collapse

Yes, it’s been caught on camera.

They have trained their dogs to do as well, according to Palestinian testimony.

mcv@lemmy.zip on 15 May 00:07 collapse

Other newspapers should definitely report that Israel is suing the NYT for reporting about rape in Israeli prisons.

LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 May 22:53 next collapse

Makes them even more guilty to sue over facts.

ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world on 14 May 23:03 next collapse

How much was Israel spending on pr firms to fix its poor image to the rest of the world, and is this just the first step of that plan?

Tronn4@lemmy.world on 15 May 01:07 collapse

As much US tax dollars as it can get

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip on 15 May 00:15 next collapse

wont a trial include…you know…an extensive investigation? wait this is murica, mebbe not

OrteilGenou@lemmy.world on 15 May 01:03 next collapse

The trial would be conducted as a musical, so the investigation would be restricted to a twenty-minute baritone solo

njm1314@lemmy.world on 15 May 01:51 collapse

Not if The Times just completely rolls over and shows it’s belly.

neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 00:44 next collapse

Sure. Let’s go to court and have a mutual discovery session with a public trial.

tacosanonymous@mander.xyz on 15 May 01:16 next collapse

They would want to do it on their turf where they don’t have discovery for themselves and all the judges are all in on genocide.

Footer1998@crazypeople.online on 15 May 01:29 collapse

The judiciary is, by and large, owned and controlled by the ruling class. Don’t expect anything resembling justice to come from that system.

Tja@programming.dev on 15 May 05:32 collapse

IANAL, but the discovery has nothing to do with the judiciary, it’s before the judge makes a ruling and it’s public.

sheetzoos@lemmy.world on 15 May 00:58 next collapse

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 15 May 08:49 collapse

Yeah, whatevs, bruv.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world on 15 May 01:12 next collapse

ISRAEL

RAPES

AS

A

WEAPON

OF

WAR

AND

GENOCIDE

Get fucked, Zionists.

Footer1998@crazypeople.online on 15 May 01:30 next collapse

inb4 this post gets deleted by pro-zionist lemmy.world mods/admins

njm1314@lemmy.world on 15 May 01:50 next collapse

Just really shows you how fucking delusional these God damn ghouls in Israel are. The New York Times just carries their water. As is their history they always go to bat for fascist regimes and they love to cover up genocides they’ve been doing it for a century. Certainly they’ve been doing it for Israel. Still though, not enough for those God damn demons in the state of Israel.

OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 02:06 next collapse

Didn’t the Bible say something about all nations turning against Israel right before the end of the world?

We’re making good strides in that direction. Let’s hurry up and see how it ends. I’ve had enough, TBH.

binux@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 02:27 next collapse

It’s baffling how it’s been over twenty years at this point and still essentially no one with influence has ever heard of the Streisand effect before. Like they’re obviously delusional, but it’s like their brains are sucked into vacuums.

corbindallas@fedinsfw.app on 15 May 02:28 next collapse

The irony of suing a Jewish family. Sulzberger Family basically owns NYT

OhioComrade@lemmy.ml on 15 May 04:46 next collapse

Is it possible for nations to sue individuals of different nations? Like what court would this be filed under?

Jax@sh.itjust.works on 15 May 05:44 next collapse

Trump will make it happen, he’s a good puppet

ChairmanMeow@programming.dev on 15 May 06:34 collapse

Israel is suing the NYT for supposedly breaking US law. That’s pretty typical worldwide. Crime doesn’t become legal if you do it to a foreigner, you need a special status for that (like ICE goon for example).

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 15 May 10:20 next collapse

Hopefully the new York Times hs to present a lot of evidence and they don’t settle to bury everything

Hacksaw@lemmy.ca on 15 May 10:55 collapse

Israel is trying to figure out what victims snitched so they can kill them and their families. They’re not stupid enough to think they could win money, they just want discovery so they can teach those Palestinians a lesson for speaking to the media.

CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 May 11:08 collapse

I think there’s someone else that needs justice here.