Italian police accused of making female activists remove underwear and do squats (www.theguardian.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 12:36
https://lemmy.world/post/24342285

Summary

Italian police in Brescia face allegations of degrading treatment after seven female climate activists from Extinction Rebellion claimed they were forced to remove their underwear and perform squats during questioning.

The activists, detained after a protest against Leonardo, an aerospace company, accused police of singling out women for this treatment.

Police denied misconduct, stating the procedure was to search for dangerous objects.

The incident has prompted calls for an investigation from opposition politicians amid debates over a controversial security bill targeting climate activists with harsher penalties.

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nevaseerius@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jan 12:52 next collapse

Isn’t that standard process when booking inmates

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 13:14 next collapse

No.

nevaseerius@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jan 13:15 collapse

Oh that’s fucked up then, rip

john89@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 14:21 collapse

It’d be more fucked up if it was standard…

itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jan 19:47 collapse

No don’t you understand, morality is solely derived from legality

HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today on 16 Jan 13:25 next collapse

Not yet

john89@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 14:21 next collapse

Nope. It’s not ‘standard.’

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 16 Jan 17:49 next collapse

Only in concentration camps.

Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jan 23:09 collapse

If that’s the case, why do it only to the women?

Omgboom@lemmy.zip on 16 Jan 13:28 next collapse

Lol it’s to make sure you don’t have anything shoved up inside of you. It’s like you guys haven’t ever been arrested before.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cavity_search#Proced…

Squatting is sometimes instructed during the visual search, and prolonged holding of a squat can be demanded; squats are sometimes demanded while standing over a mirror (so that the observer has an improved view). The person may be asked to “squat and cough,” with the aim of dislodging an object stored in the rectum or vagina.

Edit: For the record fuck the police always, but this is a pretty standard part of being searched before you are processed

Nikelui@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 13:41 next collapse

It’s like you guys haven’t ever been arrested before.

I can’t say I have been, so thank you for the explanation.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 13:43 next collapse

Then why are they saying only the women had to do this?

Edit: I’ve never had a cavity search any of the times I have been arrested.

ValiantDust@feddit.org on 16 Jan 13:56 next collapse

but this is a pretty standard part of being searched before you are processed

Not everyone lives in the US. If I remember correctly, here in Germany they are not allowed to routinely do these searches (doesn’t mean they can’t do them, but it’s not standard when you are arrested). I think it’s based on EU laws, so the same probably applies to Italy.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 13:59 next collapse

From the same article

United States edit

In the United States, Bell v. Wolfish is the benchmark case on this issue. In its judgment of the case, the U.S. Supreme Court established a standard of reasonable grounds for performing cavity searches. Among these are security concerns at prisons. Such searches are generally governed by the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibits searches without probable cause.[3]

RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com on 16 Jan 14:44 collapse

Which US state is Italy in?

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Jan 15:02 next collapse

Lmao. Rofl even.

TotalFat@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 15:52 next collapse

New Jersey

thejml@lemm.ee on 16 Jan 17:42 collapse

“Everything’s legal in New Jersey”

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 16:04 collapse

The point of the matter is the previous poster said that it was standard, my response proved it wasn’t.

If you read even the summary you will see that it wasn’t uniformly implemented.

RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com on 16 Jan 16:59 collapse

It’s your loose interpretation of “it’s standard” that’s tripping you up. US case law has no relevance on what’s standard in Italy.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 17:03 collapse

From the summary:

The activists, detained after a protest against Leonardo, an aerospace company, accused police of singling out women for this treatment.

Any other arguments that are D.O.A?

RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com on 16 Jan 17:53 collapse

You should ask yourself that question.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 17:57 collapse

Lol, doesn’t read the summary, uses overly broad terms and then points the finger at someone else.

Are ya sure?

HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com on 16 Jan 18:03 next collapse

I sorta need this explanation. Some fucked up shit.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 18:25 collapse

A lot of countries require the equivalent of probable cause to do a cavity search before entering institutions like prisons, jails, or asylums as a prisoner or patient.

glowie@h4x0r.host on 16 Jan 20:16 next collapse

Don’t waste your time, people no longer like facts just feelings

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 23:42 collapse

Super standard, which is exactly why initially the police denied doing it 😒

john89@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 14:20 next collapse

Police denied misconduct, stating the procedure was to search for dangerous objects.

Bullshit. Italian culture needs to grow the fuck up.

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 16 Jan 14:54 next collapse

“Yeah that doesn’t surprise me.” – Anyone whose ever seen an Italian Giallo film.

Doorbook@lemmy.world on 16 Jan 17:16 collapse

The thing that people in the comments missing is the “activists” part. Here is more details from the article:

The activists were among 22 people brought to Brescia’s main police station on Monday morning after officers interrupted a protest held outside the Italian aerospace and defence firm Leonardo’s factory.

Activists have alleged that while there they were subjected to degrading treatment at the hands of police officers.

In a video posted online, one member of Extinction Rebellion, the global environmental movement, said: “They asked me to undress, take off my underwear and do three squats, ‘for checks’, according to them.”

The woman claimed the treatment was “only reserved for the females, not the males”.