Britain’s far right enjoys unparalleled impunity on Telegram (www.politico.eu)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 12:01
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Far-right agitators have long enjoyed an unparalleled level of impunity on Telegram.

As riots swept the U.K. in recent days, far-right groups plotted attacks on immigration centers and swapped manuals for making petrol bombs on the fringe social network Telegram.

Social media platforms have faced intense criticism for hosting extremist rhetoric that has inflamed violent disorder since****the killing of three children in Southport in a stabbing attack late July.

But while Elon Musk’s provocations on X (formerly Twitter) have grabbed the limelight, right-wing agitators have long enjoyed an unparalleled level of impunity on Telegram.

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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 12:30 next collapse

Unfortunately, that was the point of Telegram.

TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee on 11 Aug 2024 13:05 next collapse

Q: wouldn’t this be just as easy on fediverse networks?

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 11 Aug 2024 14:56 collapse

Not really, since all messages are public, and you can also grab whoever is maintaining a given instance.

cynthorpe@discuss.online on 11 Aug 2024 15:30 next collapse

It’s almost like complaining that whispering is legal.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 15:46 collapse

Okay? I never said anything about legality. Look up the history of Telegram. It’s basically a Russian agitation fomenter.

cynthorpe@discuss.online on 11 Aug 2024 15:49 collapse

Not arguing.

FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 17:05 collapse

I’m out of the loop. Got any decent links I can follow this up on? I don’t want to be a part of the problem but I do primarily use Telegram up until now.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 21:01 collapse

codastory.com/…/how-telegram-became-the-hub-of-ru…

FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world on 12 Aug 2024 08:22 collapse

Thanks. I read the article and the situation is pretty bad.

I’ve seen people who decry the genocide in Palestine get ratioed or blocked on Microsoft, Meta, Twitter and possibly others. www.bbc.com/news/articles/cger582weplo

That’s one of many examples but Meta are also complicit in genocide, by allowing disinformation to fan the flames as they profit from the advertising. So there is a widespread problem of unethical behaviour.

So I wonder what the better option is or if Signal would be immune. I can happily stick to SMS too.

worldwidewave@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 12:34 next collapse

“ISIS is obviously still around on telegram, but it’s not as big,” he said.  

But the platform seemed more relaxed when it came to letting far right communities thrive — until it began removing some channels this week. “Frankly speaking, if a brown person says something horrible, Telegram will be all over it, if a white person says it, I’m not sure they would be,” a former senior police officer involved in counter-terrorism enforcement, granted anonymity to speak candidly, told POLITICO.

“Telegram’s moderators are actively monitoring the situation and are removing channels and posts containing calls to violence,” Telegram said.

Lax content controls mean that far right organizers can conduct their activities undisturbed. Telegram has “less than a dozen” moderators, said Feldman, compared to theestimated 15,000 who work at Meta. Telegram’s few moderators spend their time removing “the worst things that humanity can come up with,” like child sexual abuse material, he added.

Just shut the whole site down. What good is coming out of this cesspool?

ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works on 11 Aug 2024 13:37 collapse

Meanwhile people planning a peaceful protest get stopped, and sentenced to 4-5 years in prison