Heritage Foundation openly calls for end of European Union (nos.nl)
from TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 23 Dec 2025 22:11
https://lemmy.world/post/40619557

Article translation to English:

It is “in the interest of the United States and Europe” that the European Union be dissolved". That is what Nile Gardiner, director of the European branch of the Heritage Foundation, says to Nieuwsuur. That conservative think tank is known as the main shaper of the policies of US President Donald Trump’s second term.

The Trump administration supports “movements and political leaders in Europe” who are “pro-American and believe that Europe should take a different direction,” Gardiner says. This concerns leaders of Italy, Poland and Hungary, who see the conservative thinker as “important allies.”

In February, Vice President J.D. Already sharply criticized Europe. This summer , further indications came to light that the U.S. is out on a change of power.

According to the new U.S. security strategy, which was published this month, Europe is in danger of “losing its civilization through immigration and the disappearance of national identities.” The document praises nationalist parties “who want to preserve the individual character and history of European countries” and supports patriotic parties in their struggle to dismantle the EU from within.

In response, European Commissioner for Human Rights called on Michael O’Flaherty to take courage against US criticism of the EU. European heads of government reacted remarkably little. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz was fierce and called the plan “unacceptable and unacceptable.”

The chairman of the committee in the European Parliament that maintains contact with the US called the security strategy “a frontal attack on the EU.” The words of the White House, according to him, amount to interference in European elections. ‘Warning for Europe’

From right-wing parties, there is also a positive reaction to the American policy paper. Member of the European Parliament Mieke Andriese (PVV) calls it a “clear strategic warning for Europe” this week. “Mass immigration threatens our European identity.”

Member of the European Parliament Sander Smit (BBB), a member of a committee for strengthening European democracy, can also agree with parts of the American criticism. “BBB does not support the abolition of the EU, but believes that the EU urgently needs internal reforms because of a democratic deficit, diminishing legitimacy and too much bureaucracy,” he tells Nieuwsuur. Read his entire response here.

Nile Gardiner is now going a step further with his plea for the abolition of the EU. “I don’t see any future scenario where Europe is better off with the survival of the European Union than without.”

There are “deep-rooted concerns in the US capital Washington about what is seen as the suppression of freedom of expression within the European Union,” says Gardiner. The EU would have too much power over the member states.

The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines that the European Commission handed out to the social medium X, owned by tech billionaire and ex-Trump adviser Elon Musk. The fines totalled 120 million euros and were imposed for violations of an internet law. With these types of “attacks on U.S. tech companies,” the EU would undermine US security.

Moreover, the Union would not listen to the voice of the people and restrict the power of right-wing radical parties such as the AfD. And the EU would open the gates for mass migration. Gardiner fears the increasing influence of Islam. “All this makes the EU doomed.” ‘Europe reacts too weakly’

According to the leading Irish researcher Judy Dempsey (Carnegie Institute), the European Union is responding too weakly and too slowly to the Trump administration’s lashing out. “The Europeans don’t look at themselves, but just say: don’t you dare criticize our democracy.”

Dempsey, who is researching international relations, argues that the EU does not use its large internal market sufficiently as a geopolitical instrument. “The EU is not confident and knows how to sell itself poorly.”

Trump is responding to this by politically influencing and dividing Europe, the researcher says. “The idea that a divided EU would be in US favour is at odds with the transatlantic view that has been in place since 1945.”

“The weakness of Europeans is that they do not confront far-right populist parties, whether in France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy.”

According to Gardiner, the plan to turn the EU into a defense force clashes with US interests. “This undermines the NATO alliance, while it pulls military resources away,” he says. “NATO will hopefully exist for centuries to come, but the EU will eventually disappear.”

The U.S. under Trump supports right-wing nationalist parties in Europe that “insist on more sovereignty and self-determination,” Gardiner says. He mentions, among others, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Polish President Karol Nawrocki and the party president of France’s Rassemblement National, Jordan Bardella. Gardiner emphasizes that it is about political support; there would be no question of financial aid. Discussion within the Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation is an independent right-wing conservative think tank in Washington. They developed ‘Project 2025’, policy proposals that the government is now implementing. Nile Gardiner is the director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, the European branch of The Heritage Foundation.

The extreme course that the Heritage Foundation has been pursuing since this year leads to ideological discussions within the institute: in recent weeks, some fifteen employees left the institute. Disagreements included stopping support for Ukraine and the controversial tariff policy that President Trump is pursuing. Heritage director Kevin Roberts also initially refused to condemn statements by the far-right, anti-Semitic influencer Nick Fuentes.


Discussions on Reddit about the Heritage Foundation with one saying that the think tank was founded by former Nazis or at least has remote connections to Nazis.

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kingofras@lemmy.world on 23 Dec 2025 22:41 next collapse

Interestingly Europe is about the call for the end of Trump seeing how the stew with the proof of him being a pedophile can’t be covered up by his own justice department any longer.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 23 Dec 2025 23:23 next collapse

More than a pedophile, an actual trafficker.

PS: and ordering the killings of people who tried to expose him.

Kalothar@lemmy.ca on 23 Dec 2025 23:49 collapse

Clan I get a source for that last thing, haven’t seen that yet

kingofras@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 00:00 next collapse

I think they might be referring to the veteran democrats who made a video reminding that the soldiers auth is to the constitution not the president.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 24 Dec 2025 01:50 collapse

www.justice.gov/epstein/files/…/EFTA00020517.pdf

and this one doesnt help either:

www.justice.gov/epstein/files/…/EFTA00038986.pdf

As you read more, it is always the worst stuff you can imagine and they just sat on it for decades. It’s like “american psycho”+“eyes wide shut”+“taxi driver”.

PS: www.justice.gov/epstein/files/…/EFTA00025010.pdf

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:21 collapse

Both are gone.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 24 Dec 2025 02:25 collapse

Try using a VPN, I can still see them.

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 03:59 collapse

Wait, do you think they are just blocking people in the states?

That seems like a lot more trouble than deleting them (and sort of pointless).

piwakawakas@lemmy.nz on 24 Dec 2025 08:12 collapse

I can definitely see them. Outside the states and on a VPN.

Horrifying to read…

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 17:10 collapse

Strange.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 01:42 collapse

Europe is about the call for the end of Trump

I thought they were about to hand the UK, France, Germany, and Sweden to fascist parties over the next three years

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:12 next collapse

Yeah this is just online Euros coping.

That continent has every bit as much of a fascist problem as the US does, the EU is the only thing preventing it from getting worse and AfD etc knows it

FosterMolasses@leminal.space on 24 Dec 2025 11:06 collapse

as much of a fascist problem as the US does

It’s not quite that bad yet, fortunately.

Overspark@piefed.social on 24 Dec 2025 07:49 next collapse

Thing is, every time a fascist party rises to power in the EU they fuck it up spectacularly and lose the next elections. So far Meloni in Italy is the only exception, the rest have been quite pathetic.

lysol@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 10:59 collapse

Sweden’s party is bad, but not AfD-bad. They are also already in the coalition as a supporting party, but not actually in the government. Though I dread the day they will be in the government.

Right now though, polls point to a center-left coalition next year…

bluemoon@piefed.social on 29 Dec 2025 14:41 collapse

given how echo chambers brainwash a rejection of new information, especially from online communication

i say knock on doors and talk to people in the street/on the countryside in person. i’ll tell you and everyone reading to make that two people,

i ask everyone reading to talk politics to two people not obviously voting red-green before elections

orclev@lemmy.world on 23 Dec 2025 22:41 next collapse

Well anything the Heritage Foundation is against is clearly a good idea, so Europe should be proud that on the whole they’re doing a good job. Keep pissing off the Heritage Foundation to keep winning.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 23 Dec 2025 23:01 next collapse

Just more projection at this point. The Heritage foundation captured US federal government needs to be disbanded, and for my money not reformed. That sort of concentrated power is always corrupted and abuses.

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:08 collapse

Hierarchical power structures in general

But yes IMO the “reforms” they’ve been responsible for have completely destroyed any fascismile of democracy in the US. It is time to look to our communities and create horizontal structures to serve our needs.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 01:39 next collapse

“we’re against pineapple on pizza”- The heritage foundation just wanting to ruin someone’s day. (Lol. I lie. They’re not that clever.)

Tryenjer@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 13:30 collapse

The Heritage Foundation is a neo-Nazi terrorist organisation and it needs to be dismantled.

Ekybio@lemmy.world on 23 Dec 2025 22:46 next collapse

The Heritage Foundation is a Terrorist Organisation

cmbabul@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 00:42 next collapse

Obligatory always has been

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 24 Dec 2025 01:37 collapse
rickdg@lemmy.world on 23 Dec 2025 23:04 next collapse

Putin aproves this message.

HairyHarry@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 00:24 next collapse

Putin aproves ordered this message.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 01:41 next collapse

This goes higher on the chain than Putin

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 07:45 collapse

Unironically: xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1997279325876367719 (the biggest asshole in the world says that it’s in Europe best interest to disband and become many small states with no international influence, and Medvedev approves the message

SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 10:14 collapse

I dont think he is the biggest asshole (Peter Thiel, Putin, and Trump are bigger). I would say however that he is leading the pack for the loudest asshole.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 23 Dec 2025 23:41 next collapse

These guys don’t want any international or domestic solidarity at all. Like, even if they get everything they supposedly want, they keep going after the Christian fundamentalists that don’t subscribe to their particular brand. They’ll fractionate American society until it’s literally just an orgy of slaughter like “The Purge”.

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:16 next collapse

Uh yeah thats literally what they want

Do you not live near rednecks…?

FosterMolasses@leminal.space on 24 Dec 2025 11:10 collapse

until it’s literally just an orgy of slaughter like “The Purge”.

According to the Epstein files, orgy and slaughter is unironically their idea of idyllic society.

Like reavers, but worse.

FarrellPerks@feddit.uk on 24 Dec 2025 00:25 next collapse

I’m always happy to see shit like this to some degree as it’s a clear indicator that the thing these idiots are railing against is good and should be fought for.

It’s also hilarious that Trump can’t even control the country he’s purported to lead, and yet he thinks he can fuck with democracy in Europe on the side.

CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Dec 2025 01:38 collapse

Democracy is very fickle, especially since all it takes for democracy to fail is a minority of people to allow fascism to take hold.

Trump’s lack of ability to control the US doesn’t mean he can’t bring instability to the EU. Quite the opposite. If he can bring doubt into the coalition, then it will become easier for him to get what he wants, which is a smaller voting bloc.

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:15 collapse

A democracy that is actually organized according to democratic principles and with a strong dual-power/anti-power system baked into it would do just fine against fascist creep.

The US is no democracy and never really has been. Majority rule is the single worst implementation of democracy you could pick.

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 00:27 next collapse

Breaking the law in another country and having a fine assessed against you is somehow an attack on the US? Stop breaking the law, assholes!

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 06:02 collapse

But the movie said we’re the world police!

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 06:21 collapse

Funny, because in recent years I thought I had heard the opposite from administrations like this (Trump in his first term: we won’t tell you what to do and you won’t tell us what to do), yet here we are.

MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 00:37 next collapse

I wonder what people openly call for with respect to the Heritage Foundation.

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:17 collapse

I think thats just every Democrat press release

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 00:37 next collapse

So…“Brexit”, but now for everyone else? These people are so unbelievably disingenuous.

realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip on 24 Dec 2025 01:16 next collapse

Heritage foundation can suck my entire dick how about that?

A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:12 collapse

Most of them would love to im sure

lemmylump@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 02:37 next collapse

The people need to make the heritage foundation disappear.

Forever.

boaratio@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 03:39 next collapse

And I openly call for an end of the heritage foundation. See how easy that is to say?

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 03:41 next collapse

Let’s make it happen

chillhelm@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 07:23 next collapse

Cool. How many oil billionaires do you have amplifying your messaging? Because if it’s less than two I’m afraid your opinion matters less than Gardiners.

6stringringer@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 08:12 collapse

Despite its value, it’s the only opinion I gots.

6stringringer@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 08:07 collapse

Ima git right beside in you the trenches & behind you when U need a lift. We could be brothers from different mothers or sisters from different misters. It doesn’t matter. I like, support & fully endorse this commenter’s comment. Comment more please.

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 04:34 next collapse

I openly call for the Heritage Foundation to go fuck itself!

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 05:22 next collapse

Heritage Foundation is a terror organization

6stringringer@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 08:10 collapse

Amen! 🙌

MiDaBa@lemmy.ml on 24 Dec 2025 06:30 next collapse

The Heritage Foundation and people like Peter Thiel will leverage AI bots and social media news filtering to manipulate European opinions just like they’re doing in the United States right now. Europe needs to reject American social media and American AI companies in order to protect their own people.

DandomRude@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 09:10 collapse

That is absolutely correct, but unfortunately very unlikely, because many of our politicians are either incredibly incompetent or simply corrupt. This is for example evident in the fact that they even want to introduce Palantir, as was recently the case in Germany, where the state of Baden-Württemberg decided to use the US mass surveillance software “Gotham” in a completely unlawful manner and against the will of the population (its use is also already planned at the federal level).

So unfortunately, I have little hope here, but I will still try to do my part.

Avicenna@programming.dev on 24 Dec 2025 07:04 next collapse

this is just cancer trying to do its job and spread. Should be cauterized.

P1nkman@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 07:56 next collapse

I openly call the hunting season of Heritage Foundation employees open!

6stringringer@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 08:09 collapse

Screw oversight. I hope there is a no bag limit. We don’t need any conservation tips on this front.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 10:44 collapse

Heritage Foundation will be horrified, but will also approve your advocacy of deregulation.

6stringringer@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 10:49 collapse

Kind of a conundrum of views to remain steadfast, eh? Glad I never took one of their blood oaths to. I’m sorry what was I saying?

x00z@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 08:19 next collapse

It’s literally the Illuminati.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 04:22 collapse

though not very luminous.

BastingChemina@slrpnk.net on 24 Dec 2025 09:24 next collapse

They are already doing a good job dismantling the US.

amorangi@lemmy.nz on 24 Dec 2025 09:43 next collapse

I’d prefer to see the USA dissolved.

derpgon@programming.dev on 24 Dec 2025 11:42 next collapse

Europe has like what, 27 countries? US has like 52. One has states who joined willingly, the other is not Europe. Go figure which one is more likely to be dissolved.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 17:14 collapse

US has like 52.

Yeah, with vastly diverse cultures, just look at North and South Dakota.

And where’d you get 52 from?

frostysauce@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 19:30 next collapse

DC and PR?

derpgon@programming.dev on 25 Dec 2025 15:48 collapse

Dunno, I know there are 50 stars, but I heard two more joined.

jabjoe@feddit.uk on 24 Dec 2025 13:38 next collapse

I’d rather see it finally fixed to be a fully functioning democracy. The party duopoly was always risky. A PR system with many parties is far more stable. Make it so new parties can come and go. So there is always real choice. It helps keep the nutters from getting absolute power. The UK could fall to nutters next election because of our insane FPTP system.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 04:19 collapse
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Dec 2025 10:26 next collapse

“conservative think tank” = opinion disregarded

Tiger666@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 12:34 next collapse

Fascist think tank that used to be conservative.

ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf on 24 Dec 2025 12:50 next collapse

Conservative pedo tank

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 06:01 next collapse

Why did you write conservative twice?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 2025 16:09 collapse

Geriatric Oligarchical Pedophiles.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 24 Dec 2025 14:40 collapse

Nazi Think Tank

freeman@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 10:28 next collapse

Saying the quiet part aloud, just like Donald.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 10:43 next collapse

Patriotic Americans call for end of Heritage Foundation.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 24 Dec 2025 14:41 collapse

They are a Domestic Terror Organization, and should be abolished, and prohibited, and it’s members prosecuted.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 17:11 collapse

If the system worked, yeah, we could do it that way.

gergolippai@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 10:56 next collapse

The EU most be doing something right if nazis want it to be dissolved.

ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online on 24 Dec 2025 12:25 collapse

If the EU is dissolved, it will result in the same kind of warfare and political tension that dominated Europe prior to World War 2. Territorial claims and tensions that ceased to exist after WW2 could easily resurface again and it would make the continent a lot more vulnerable to manipulation and aggression by countries like Russia and China.

ssladam@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:07 collapse

The American right is acting in a way that is identical if they were fully compromised and acting as Russian agents. Promoting the dissolution of the EU only benefits Russia.

Typhoon@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 11:09 next collapse

The United States is an aggressive fascist state bent on control.

It is in the interest of Europe and the rest of the world that the American Union be dissolved.

Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 11:10 next collapse

America has aligned with Russia, and by extension China, North Korea, and even Iran, against it’s old NATO allies Canada, Europe, and Japan and South Korea. The rest of NATO must respond or the aligned democracies will be separated and destroyed one by one.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 12:05 collapse

There is no “rest of NATO”. The US runs NATO.

Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 13:00 collapse

That is not true. NATO is a multilateral agreement. There is currently a bill in both the US House and Senate which if passed and signed into law would remove the US from NATO. But if that were to happen, NATO would continue with the remaining signatories.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 17:08 next collapse

Full command of NATO lies with the US and the bill is nothing more than a sham which will never pass.

Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 02:49 collapse

From your mouth to God’s ears.

matlag@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 17:59 collapse

NATO is both a protection agreement and a tool to bind its members to somel level of US control. A new alliance is needed without the US. It should start with Europe (not just the EU, it should include the UK and non-EU countries) and it could then attract Canada, Australia, Japan, … But that requires members to get their shit together and rebuild their respective armies. And all the countries that bought F35 just bound themselves to the US for decades again. So it looks really bad right now.

Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 04:04 collapse

Show me on the doll where a US departure from NATO would require renegotiation between other multilateral parties:

www.nato.int/en/…/the-north-atlantic-treaty

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 11:15 next collapse

Dempsey, who is researching international relations, argues that the EU does not use its large internal market sufficiently as a geopolitical instrument. “The EU is not confident and knows how to sell itself poorly.”

Yes. And

Trump is responding to this by politically influencing and dividing Europe, the researcher says. “The idea that a divided EU would be in US favour is at odds with the transatlantic view that has been in place since 1945.”

“The weakness of Europeans is that they do not confront far-right populist parties, whether in France, the Netherlands, Germany or Italy.”

2 + 3rd generation after WW2 and Hitler, no one remembers.

Potatar@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 13:06 collapse

Dude most people are not able to divide one billion by a thousand. Otherwise they’d see that we could have 1000 millionaires for each billionaire.

You expect string recall?

frebib@social.nerdhouse.io on 24 Dec 2025 12:23 next collapse

The amount of comments referencing the United States of America here is just sad. This is an article about the EU! Contrary to popular belief, there are other countries in the world. It’s tiring living in a US-centric world 😮‍💨

zaphod@sopuli.xyz on 24 Dec 2025 13:54 collapse

I’m not a fan of making random references to the USA, but this is an article about an american think tank linked to the current us government which is trying to influence european politics.

Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 12:35 next collapse

Comedy gold.

random@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 12:59 next collapse

“Hey guys, guys! disband so we can weaken your bargaining power against US/Russia and be subject to our will. Disband Now!”

myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 13:09 next collapse

The EUs respond should be “fuck off.”

bigfondue@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 15:20 collapse

EU should openly call for the the end of the Heritage Foundation

matlag@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 17:54 collapse

Declare them terrorist and ban their members from travelling to Europe would be a start. Unfortunately the EU is soft most of the time on these issues. See Russia carrying spying and sending drone and even jet fighters without the slightest consequence.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:14 next collapse

Heritage foundation. What of bunch of inbred idiots. I’m sure they thought it was fun knocking up their mothers just like their daddy brother did for them.

Formfiller@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:15 next collapse

The heritage foundation is a criminal organization

M0oP0o@mander.xyz on 24 Dec 2025 19:09 collapse

Naw, crime is now legal in the us of a. *

  • some exceptions apply, must be rich, some ethnic backgrounds ineligible.
Maiznieks@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:27 next collapse

Why does that sound like something putin would say? And for “some reason” - musk too?

despite_velasquez@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 15:06 collapse

Both Putin and Trump (through his ideologists) are diametrically opposed to European liberalism

MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:30 next collapse

It is in the interest of the United States and Europe that the Heritage Foundation be dissolved.

MycelialMass@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:58 collapse

In a vat of acid

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 22:40 collapse

no a vat of acidic eels

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 08:07 collapse

With free-kin la-zer beems on their heads!

olafurp@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:38 next collapse

I would love to hear a single policy from the heritage foundation that’s actually a good idea.

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crystalmerchant@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:50 next collapse

Generous to call Orange Donnie a conservative “thinker”. He doesn’t give a rats ass about any coherent strategy other than “own the libs” and “how does this make me money”

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 17:11 collapse

Conservatism, historically, has always been what someone does instead of thinking.

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 14:55 next collapse

Of course. Europe belongs to Putin. North and South America are Trump’s by Divine Right. Hail the New Order. /s

nao@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 14:59 next collapse

Maybe I missed it, but I fail to see how dissolving the EU would be in the interest of Europe, by their logic?

bitjunkie@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 15:05 next collapse

by their logic

I think I see where you fucked up…

despite_velasquez@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 15:05 next collapse

Because “muh EU holding citizens of member states as hostages to WOKE”

phutatorius@lemmy.zip on 24 Dec 2025 17:09 next collapse

They will then enjoy the chirproactic benefits of a Russian boot on their collective neck.

matlag@sh.itjust.works on 24 Dec 2025 17:52 next collapse

Why the hell would they care about Europe’s interest?? There’s only one country that matters. One above all. One first, and any true patriot should recognize it: it’s Russ… USA! USA!! (Sorry, I slipped! Do you think anyone noticed??)

kent_eh@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 23:11 next collapse

You have to look at it through the lens of American exceptionalism.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 04:14 collapse

America’s 1% doesn’t like how Europe’s bottom 99% seem to average better than America’s bottom 99%—it’s getting many Americans in America’s bottom 99% to think that their country should be more like a European country.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 08:15 collapse

“The misery is the point!”

despite_velasquez@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 15:04 next collapse

I mean… the EU itself is doing half their job by using all their political capital on inane shit like Chat Control, instead of using all available political capital for federalisation and strengthening ties with China

FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 17:11 next collapse

The Heritage Foundation has no business telling other countries what to do

JcbAzPx@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 17:39 collapse

They have no business telling the US what to do either. Sadly that’s never stopped them.

FlyingCircus@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 17:14 next collapse

The Heritage Foundation is a terrorist organization.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 17:34 next collapse

I openly call for the end of the United States of America. It’s been an evil empire pretty much since it’s founding but ever since WWII ended, it went off a cliff

It’s a dictatorship with nukes.

End it, end it now.

Long live the European Union!

3yiyo3@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2025 06:38 collapse

The USA is as imperialist as your shithole European Union. Fuck european imperialism

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 24 Dec 2025 17:52 next collapse

The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines that the European Commission handed out to the social medium X, owned by tech billionaire and ex-Trump adviser Elon Musk. T

Ding ding ding

And here we have the real reason. The EU won’t allow the US tech companies to fuck over its citizens for moneys

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 08:10 collapse

And we were all just discussing how those fines were an insignificant, barely noticable scratch upon their obscene wealth that doesn’t go nearly far enough.

The threat of consequences by tiny little fines is enough to make a propaganda push to alter the world map and ignite chaos. Like imagine pushing a state to secede from the Union because you’re feeling bitchy over paying a parking ticket.

These people have rejected their humanity and become raging sociopathic misanthropes that any civilized society would rightly banish into the cold of winter to face the wolves.

HiobsTriops@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 17:57 next collapse

I openly call for the end of the Heritage Foundation. Regards, an EU citizen.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 08:06 collapse

Heritage Foundation should be dissolved, preferably in some kind of highly caustic solution!

simulacra_procession@lemmy.today on 24 Dec 2025 18:58 next collapse

theguardian.com/…/project-2025-heritage-foundatio…

Applicants to a heritage foundation hiring pool for the new trump admin frequently cited as inspiration: nazi Carl Schmitt, El Salvador’s Bukele, white supremacist Jared Taylor, and the UK’s Neema Parvini among others. Some of these applicants have gone on to receive positions in the trump admin. They are literally drawing from the poisonous well of nazi-ism and attempting to re-export it to the EU. Don’t carry that water.

Jhex@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 19:03 next collapse

I hope all the members of this terrorist organization are denied visas to go to any EU country

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 19:33 next collapse

sure thing boss tweed anything you say

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 24 Dec 2025 21:08 next collapse

Fuck Heritage foundation. Me and all me EU homies hate heritage foundation. The EU is the best thing that has happened to colonial and war-ravaged European continent that’s just peacefully existing and defending itself right now.

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 21:42 next collapse

Spot on! I’m an EU citizen too. I read the UK may make an attempt to return.

_Nico198X_@europe.pub on 24 Dec 2025 21:58 collapse

imo, inevitably it will. Brexit has been a disaster that is finally being acknowledged. just need to get a wrangle on the grifters and propaganda.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2025 02:55 next collapse

Defending itself? From what? Cows?

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 25 Dec 2025 10:56 collapse

Are you living in a cave? There is literally an invasion/war happening in Europe.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2025 12:06 collapse

WOW there’s literally FIVE countries being attacked in the Middle East!

And your little skirmish in “Europe”, would it be between two non-European countries that are both populated by exactly the same people?

falseWhite@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 12:50 next collapse

I know I’m wasting my time, since you are clearly an undedicated moron, BUT, FYI, both Russia and Ukraine are in Europe.

BOTH countries also share a border with many EU and NATO members. Yet somehow it’s not a threat??

Maybe go read about Russian history, just not from Russian books and you will learn what a twisted evil country that is and it absolutely CANNOT be trusted to not invade any other of its neighbours.

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 26 Dec 2025 10:17 collapse

You clearly don’t even know the difference between EU and Europe.

How is the fact that there are wars happening in Middle East makes what I said irrelevant or false? I’m not sure why you even said that. Like WOW there’s literally wars happening in Asia - does not make wars in Middle East irrelevant.

3yiyo3@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2025 06:36 next collapse

Bro when will you acknowledge that EU is another imperialist piece of shit that needs to be dismantled? Just the same shit as the US empire. Fuck thr European Union imperialism.

BodyPower@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 07:41 next collapse

One of EUs biggest members left the EU a few years ago by democratic means. How is that imperialist?

MashedTech@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 08:16 collapse

And they aren’t even better for it… Aren’t they looking to come back or something?

MashedTech@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 08:15 next collapse

Fuck You! Because of the existence of the EU I get to do trade more easily and support my family and have an existence on this land! Because of EU regulations and pressures my country is less corrupt! Because of EU funds I was able to actually start my business! Without the EU I couldn’t enjoy the life I have today!

snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 2025 10:02 collapse

Better than pretty much every other big group right now. Like what are the alternatives? Russia’s trying to take over the world, China’s trying to… take over the world a bit more subtly, America… oh right yeah they’re trying that too while somehow screwing it up beyond belief. Obviously this is simplified but I’m probably wasting my time here cause .ml

MashedTech@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 08:14 collapse

Same

Gammelfisch@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 21:47 next collapse

Whenever I hear a MAGA fucknut yapping about how bad the EU, especially as a threat to culture, I tell them to dissolve the USA and the EU was 90 years too late.

MashedTech@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 08:17 collapse

Yeah, US was able to be formed only after eradicating entire cultures!

DegenerationIP@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 22:57 next collapse

In the Name of the EU. F Off.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world on 24 Dec 2025 23:08 next collapse

Maybe the USA should be dissolved.

FWIW,

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BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 2025 03:00 collapse

I strongly oppose this and think it’s a bad idea because then you’ll be like Ukraine and your neighbors like Russia. Instead we must win big in all 50 states. Otherwise you’ll screw over tens if not hundreds of millions of people who will be forced to live in a a far-right extremist country. Let’s instead take back our country in all 50 states.

Another reason why this is a bad idea is because blue states send a lot of good Democrats to congress. Taking that away means certain Republican domination in congress.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 04:05 collapse

I strongly oppose this and think it’s a bad idea because then you’ll be like Ukraine and your neighbors like Russia.

Maybe Ukraine was foolish enough to give up its nukes. Also California and other Pacific states might want to leave.

Instead we must win big in all 50 states.

I don’t see the Democrats winning big—though we will know in 10¼ months.

Otherwise you’ll screw over tens if not hundreds of millions of people who will be forced to live in a a far-right extremist country.

It’s apparently what many Americans want.

It’s becoming an American tradition: bring in a shitty Republican about every 20 years. Today it’s Trump. Before it was Dubya. Before him was Reagan, and before him was Nixon.

Another reason why this is a bad idea is because blue states send a lot of good Democrats to congress. Taking that away means certain Republican domination in congress.

wp:2024 United States House of Representatives elections#Per state

state total Republican seats Democratic seats
California 52 9 43
Connecticut 5 0 5
Maine 2 0 2
Massachusetts 9 0 9
New Hampshire 2 0 2
Rhode Island 2 0 2
Vermont 1 0 1
New England 21 0 21
New Jersey 12 3 9
New York 26 7 19
Pennsylvania 17 10 7
these 3 states 55 20 35
Total 435 220 215

wp:List of current United States senators#List of senators

New England has 12 senators. Only 1 is GOP (Cole), 2 are independent, including Bernie, and 9 are Democats including GOP bête noire Warren.

wp:List of current United States governors

While 2 of the 6 governors are GOP, the Vermont one said he voted for Biden and harris in 2020 and 2024.

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 02:54 next collapse

Let the EU openly call for the dissolution of the HF

falseWhite@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 12:46 collapse

Nah, declare them a terrorist organisation. Impose sanctions, prosecute, imprison.

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 2025 03:10 next collapse

The right continues to burn bridges and build barriers

While the left continues to checks notes boycott Harry Potter

HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 03:12 next collapse

Everything the heritage foundation wants will lead to war

Civil War in the US and World War everywhere else

The are the worst people that currently exist, and that list includes Vladimir Putin

They are worse

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 05:59 next collapse

Only if the US breaks up too.

Aljernon@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 06:02 collapse

Don’t forget Russia and China. Break up ALL the empires

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 06:14 next collapse

Western Australia and Queensland on these suggestions

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ameancow@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 06:26 collapse

Our imagination: a borderless world of small, self-governed regions which have no need for armies or national security because everyone depends on everyone else.

The reality: Roving warbands, a constantly shifting map as cities burn. Almost instantaneous reestablishment of large alliances for security.

Aljernon@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 2025 07:23 collapse

Alliances and Empires are not the same thing, my dude

ameancow@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 2025 15:53 collapse

Oh in that case, then yes it would all work splendidly and people would form a harmonious world of peace and prosperity and nobody would try to consolidate power. How could I have missed that.

user81720483@feddit.org on 25 Dec 2025 11:25 next collapse

Heritage Foundation should be declared a Terrorist Organization and prosecuted.

falseWhite@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 12:45 collapse

YES. EU should declare them a terrorist organisation and impose sanctions.

falseWhite@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 12:42 next collapse

Haha.

Got any more lame jokes?

The fuckers simply can’t stand that they can’t bully Europe as much as they want to. Their only hope is to divide and conquer.

Fucking idiots. EVERYONE can see from miles away what they’re trying to do and what their agenda is.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 2025 12:57 next collapse

In other breaking news…they also want Saturn’s’ rings moved to Jupiter because they control both the EU and the planets. Delusions of Grand Jury.

sturmblast@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 13:46 next collapse

The Heritage Foundation is seditious and traitorous

Agent641@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 13:55 next collapse

Europa should consider pulling the plug on their failed America’s colonies project. Britain, Spain, and France have let the hole run far past it’s use-by date

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2025 13:57 next collapse

i, on behalf of most americans, would like to call for the shutdown of heritage foundation, and also for all funding to that organization to be redirected to the democratic socialists of america. merry holidays, everyone! seriously.

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 2025 13:58 next collapse

the only thing i want from ol’ saint nick is to ban the heritage foundation 'cause trump is a dick

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 2025 16:08 next collapse

As an American:

Are GIGN or KSK or GROM exceedingly busy at the moment?

If not, I politely suggest that ya’ll “politely suggest” that the Heritage Foundation should be abolished.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 16:29 collapse

Europe is still trying to cope with the fact that the US may no longer be the long standing ally it once was.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 2025 16:35 collapse

… and my politely suggested “polite suggestion” could help swing that balance back into sanity.

Assuming it is done “politely” enough.

jaxxed@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 18:02 next collapse

I didn’t realiza that they are a part of the EU.

SaraTonin@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 18:13 next collapse

I think most EU members have looked at the UK over the last few years and gone “know what? i think we’ll stay”

Paragone@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 2025 18:50 next collapse

better, more sensical translation, by DeepL.com, I’m doing it piece by piece, with a couple of comments thrown-in:


It is “in the interests of the United States and Europe” that the European Union be dissolved. That is what Nile Gardiner, director of the European branch of the Heritage Foundation, told Nieuwsuur. This conservative think tank is known as the main architect of US President Donald Trump’s second-term policy.

( converting countries to oligarchy, then… www.project2025.observer/en which may no-longer be getting updated, for whatever reason, & www.factcheck.org/…/a-guide-to-project-2025/ gives a little taste of the ideology-policy )

The Trump administration supports “movements and political leaders in Europe” who are “pro-American and believe that Europe must take a different direction,” Gardiner said. These include leaders from Italy, Poland, and Hungary, whom the conservative thinker sees as “important allies.”

In February, Vice President J.D. Vance already voiced sharp criticism of Europe. This summer, further indications emerged that the US is seeking a change of power.

( political-interference in national politics? isn’t that illegal? )


I cannot see any future scenario in which Europe would be better off with the European Union than without it.

Nile Gardiner


According to the new US security strategy, published this month, Europe is in danger of “losing its civilization through immigration and the erosion of national identities.” The document praises nationalist parties “that seek to preserve the individual character and history of European countries” and supports patriotic parties in their struggle to dismantle the EU from within.

( notice that a strengthening EU-identity is unthinkable to these agents )

In response, European Commissioner for Human Rights Michael O’Flaherty called for courage in the face of US criticism of the EU. European government leaders responded with remarkable silence. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz was fierce, calling the plan “unacceptable and inadmissible.”

( silence is accommodation, among humankind… dangerous method to use )

The chair of the European Parliament committee that maintains contact with the US called the security strategy “a frontal attack on the EU.” According to him, the White House’s words amount to interference in European elections.

( THAT one gets it. )

‘Warning for Europe’

Right-wing parties have also responded positively to the American policy document. MEP Mieke Andriese (PVV) called it a “clear strategic warning for Europe” this week. “Mass immigration threatens our European identity.”

( sigh half true: immigration isn’t handled correctly: you have to have people sign their agreement that the country outranks their-religion, & that they’re NOT going to try highjacking the country for their religion, something like that, & then you’ve got leverage to deport the country-highjackers )


MEP Sander Smit (BBB), member of a committee for strengthening European democracy ( I think that is this link: www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/…/highlights ), also agrees with parts of the American criticism. “BBB does not support abolishing the EU, but believes that the EU urgently needs internal reforms due to a democratic deficit, declining legitimacy, and excessive bureaucracy,” he told Nieuwsuur. Read his full response here.

…nos.nl/…/Reactie_Sander_Smit_op_uitspraken_Nile_…


Nile Gardiner is now going a step further with his plea for the abolition of the EU. “I cannot see any future scenario in which Europe would be better off with the European Union than without it.”

There are “deep-rooted concerns in the US capital Washington about what is seen as the suppression of freedom of expression within the European Union,” says Gardiner. The EU has too much power over its member states, he argues.

The conservative thinker points, among other things, to the fines imposed by the European Commission on social media platform X, owned by tech billionaire and former Trump advisor Elon Musk. The fines totaled €120 million and were imposed for violations of an internet law. With these kinds of “attacks on American tech companies,” the EU is undermining American security.

( so, it’s actually EU-sovreignty-from-the-US that is offensive/intolerable to the US? … Gaslighting, as usual )

Furthermore, the Union would not listen

rxbudian@lemmy.ca on 26 Dec 2025 04:18 collapse

If US can sanction EU regulators, EU should be able to sanction Heritage Foundation members over that.
If one side starts to be overtly hostile, then the other should reciprocate