Orban's chances of winning Hungary election drop after JD Vance rally (www.newsweek.com)
from RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:32
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20cello@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:33 next collapse

Lol

nosuchanon@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:37 next collapse

One can only hope.

nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:43 next collapse

smug lol

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 15:47 next collapse

Since then, betting markets show Orbán’s stock has fallen marginally, though there is no suggestion that his declining fortunes have been caused by Vance’s intervention.

Betting markets. Grain of salt taken.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 09 Apr 15:49 next collapse

Since then, betting markets show Orbán’s stock has fallen marginally, though there is no suggestion that his declining fortunes have been caused by Vance’s intervention.

So betting markets not polls, which would be pricing in the diminishing uncertainty as the day draws near, and it wasn’t like a sudden drop either.

There might not be a story here. Orban was losing, and he’s still losing.

Mvlad88@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:55 next collapse

So someone will bet big on him on Friday and they’ll do everything possible that he wins.

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 09 Apr 15:59 next collapse

If you’re in Fidesz you already have a major financial stake in him winning. And maybe a stay-out-of-jail stake.

Bullerfar@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 17:17 collapse

Remember Trumps son is a part of pollymarkets board

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 09 Apr 15:54 collapse

Hopefully he doesn't lose like Nicolas Maduro lost the last election.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 15:52 next collapse

I do rather hate that so many news orgs seem to be using polymarket et al as a drop-in replacement for actual polling, because polymarket is loosely affiliated, if at all, with reality. It’s a fucking betting platform. There’s nothing scientific or statistical about it that aligns with demographic realities.

Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Apr 16:11 next collapse

Newsweek has always been a questionable source since its purchase by the notorious IBT. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…/Perennial_sources#Newswee…

nulluser@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 16:20 next collapse

Not to mention that a quality poll would just be among qualified likely voters in the election in question, where as polymarket is just gambling addicts anywhere on the planet.

FaceDeer@fedia.io on 09 Apr 16:39 next collapse

On the other hand, it's well designed to surface inside information. Exactly the thing that lots of people complain about, but it's a good thing if you'd like to use the prediction market to make predictions like this.

Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus on 09 Apr 16:53 collapse

But at the same time Polymarket seems a bit like a self fulfilling prophecy - because Polymarket says something, it by itself increases the odds of that event happening; and in the cases where it isn’t this way, look for the large amount of bets 2 hours before the event in questing, a.k.a the “GOP spike”.

Zombiepirate@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:56 next collapse

I know he kills Orban’s chances just like he killed the pope.

Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Apr 16:09 next collapse

Alternative theory: Western news’s emphasis on this made more people aware that Orbán was actually being challenged. I’m not sure if that holds true for voting Hungarians.

Teknikal@anarchist.nexus on 09 Apr 16:09 next collapse

I’d personally be happier if the EU had some kind of election inspectors on the ground for somewhat sketchy times like this.

Trouble is we’re in a system where the likes of Orban can and do veto these kind of things, the entire process is flawed.

rogsson@piefed.social on 09 Apr 16:12 next collapse

JD baby face screaming about how EU tries to affect the voting, proceeds to manipulate the public with his speech. Ooookeydokay

chinaski@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 16:37 next collapse

Keep feeding these idiots egos that they’re liked and are helpful so they continue sabotaging their elections.

Bullerfar@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 17:16 next collapse

If it wasn’t clear that Orban is just a puppet before, then you must have noticed after this.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 09 Apr 17:17 next collapse

the Trump bump killed Pierre Poilievre’s 30% lead in Canada, and even after the loss, his MPs are all looking to defect to the Liberals.

These guys are clueless, this is not what Canada wants to see in political leadership…

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tirateimas@lemmy.pt on 09 Apr 17:18 next collapse

The fact that the Russian asset still has changes is concerning

Sanctus@anarchist.nexus on 09 Apr 17:22 next collapse

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Gerblat@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 17:58 next collapse

JD Vance is the human equivalent of a sad trombone

neidu3@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 18:35 next collapse

This is the guy in position to take over MAGA if a major cardiovascular event were to happen in the near future. This gives me hope.

parson0@startrek.website on 09 Apr 18:54 next collapse

*based on odds on fucking polymarket. This is not news

jobbies@lemmy.zip on 09 Apr 19:28 next collapse

I did think he would bad luck for their campaign - I just assumed he was just really popular in Hungary or something. Guess my instinct was right.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 19:35 next collapse

A strong man standing next to a fat faced pussy bitch makes him seem…less strong.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 19:40 next collapse

Why are we taking g the opinions of degenerate addicts and pretending it is relevant or scientific in any way?

Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca on 09 Apr 19:51 collapse

Hmmm, couch fucker should do a world tour. Damage them all.