I'm fine with a little internal contradiction!
from essell@lemmy.world to vegancirclejerk@lemmy.world on 27 May 2024 09:42
https://lemmy.world/post/15863159

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idiomaddict@feddit.de on 27 May 2024 10:09 next collapse

Moral equivalency does not imply equivalent moral understanding, and moral understanding is required to be responsible for your moral choices.

Demigod787@lemmy.world on 27 May 2024 10:38 next collapse

Humans are superior to animals and as such would be self-sufficient and not eat animal products.

Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de on 28 May 2024 11:23 collapse

Humans are animals, your statement is non-sensical.

Demigod787@lemmy.world on 02 Jun 2024 01:25 collapse

That’s the end goal of my veganism. I’m not vegan because I particularly love animals unconditionally. It’s to further distinguish ourselves as species from the rest.

jo3rn@feddit.de on 28 May 2024 06:16 next collapse

Lions don’t have the moral agency nor the means to go vegan.

Dolphins on the other hand…

PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world on 28 May 2024 16:43 collapse

…are heartless bastards.

Droggelbecher@lemmy.world on 28 May 2024 08:10 next collapse

The confusion here comes from ‘morally equal’ being a vague term. Animals are equally worthy of moral consideration, but not equally capable of making moral choices and having a system of morals.

milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee on 28 May 2024 11:32 collapse

I mean, the vegans in question are also human (one presumes), so it makes sense they consider they have agency over themselves, not - for instance - over a lion which might ought to make up its own mind. And vegan humans might try and persuade other humans to embrace vegan ethics without yet making the wider step of preaching to lions (who might complain of colonialism or cultural dominance).

One presumes vegan lions, if such were to exist, would argue against the exploitation of humans for food (as in zoos), without requiring humans to conform to the same ethical standard.

essell@lemmy.world on 28 May 2024 11:53 collapse

Best take on this by far. Beautiful.