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from 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com to vegancirclejerk@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 07:58
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cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 05 Jun 2024 09:27 next collapse

What about people who eat meat but are not against vegans?

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 09:42 next collapse

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Lemminary@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 10:39 next collapse

If you’re not murdering baby kittens and using fresh pig carcasses as furniture, are you even carnivoring, bruv?

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 11:27 collapse

Should it be exchanged with a piglet gas chamber/hatchling shredder for a better temper?

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 05 Jun 2024 12:34 collapse

I love animals!

Especially smothered in BBQ sauce

Aux@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 22:25 collapse

Or with a crispy skin.

Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de on 05 Jun 2024 10:40 next collapse

What about them?

SmoothOperator@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 11:45 collapse

Something like

  • People who are against the enslavement, exploitation and killing of billions of innocent animals, but not so much that they wouldn’t partake by eating a cheeseburger now and then?

At least that’s me some days.

Fleur__@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 10:02 next collapse

I just don’t eat animal stuff

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 13:30 collapse

that’s chill

Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 10:59 next collapse

I’m not even against the killing of people. Only suffering bothers me.

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 13:53 collapse

Hey, you most likely weren’t raised vegan, too. I’d also argue that to oppose suffering, you have to give individuals (i.e./that is people) some sort of worth, but then most killing doesn’t check out.

Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 14:21 collapse

Naw, I know some people with negative worth who still shouldn’t be suffering. In fact, I’m pretty sure they’re suffering from their lack of worth. This is a matter of ethics, not value.

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 16:37 collapse

Those might be suffering from lack of self-worth, but making difference between people’s worth opens up a can of ethical mold. Misanthropy is one thing, but the value of human life is untouchable.

Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 17:08 collapse

No, that attitude is simple evolutionary pressure to stay alive. The value of a human is no different from the value of a cow ethically, and I’ll eat cow. I don’t want either to suffer. Some people are economically far less valuable than cows.

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 20:23 collapse

Cultural evolution > Social Darwinism

Do you eat human? From a “farm”? Or shot “in the wild”?

Right to exist is not touched by effort.

Do you know what would reduce suffering for both cow and human?

Mango@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 20:41 collapse

Nobody has a right to exist. You have to fight just like anything else.

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jun 2024 00:55 collapse

I really hope for your environment that you don’t actually believe or implement this.

Gutek8134@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 12:35 next collapse

Violence is not the answer, it’s the question, and the answer is always yes.

~Doomguy

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5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 2024 16:47 next collapse

Hey, you most likely weren’t raised vegan, too. I’d also argue that to oppose suffering, you have to give individuals (i.e./that is people) some sort of worth, but then killing that isn’t self-defense doesn’t check out.

Aux@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 2024 22:26 next collapse

Vegans are food for non-vegans, simple!

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 2024 03:38 collapse

And if I compare carnism to cannibalism I’m the weird one.

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xia@lemmy.sdf.org on 05 Jun 2024 23:27 collapse

So THAT’S why i only eat meat when i’m in front of my vegan friends!

5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jun 2024 00:59 collapse

and then everyone clapped