Google Search isn’t vegan anymore (medium.com)
from Grail@aussie.zone to vegan@lemmy.world on 06 May 01:31
https://aussie.zone/post/32353880

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SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 May 02:11 next collapse

I’d compare AI to something like palm oil. It’s not good and should be avoided whenever possible, but could be acceptable if it’s the only/best tool for a given job.

Obviously we should avoid Google wherever possible, but it’s not always possible and it’s the effort that matters.

disregardable@lemmy.zip on 06 May 02:28 next collapse

And this is why property dualism doesn’t make sense.

Why else would pleasure and suffering exist in the universe? They have to be the byproduct of something physical

Yeah, it’s a physical response your brain creates to cause you to avoid things that are bad for you and select things that you need.

This is a hypothesis, and it’s better than anything else we have.

No, the best hypothesis we have is what actual doctors understand of the brain. Which is a lot more complicated than “Something is changing, therefore it must cause us to change our feelings!”

Grail@aussie.zone on 06 May 07:15 collapse

You’re saying suffering is a physical response? Okay, show us a picture or a video of suffering. Show us what it looks like under a microscope. Show us the elementary particles suffering is made of.

november@piefed.blahaj.zone on 06 May 04:54 next collapse

This is out of scope of veganism. Not all bad things are non-vegan, if I shoot up a public square that’s bad but it’s not relevant to veganism.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 May 05:27 next collapse

If you shoot up a square, you will stress out the pigeons in that square, potentially even shoot one my accident, so it’s not vegan. /s

Yeah, this article is a really bad take.

iusearchbtw@feddit.uk on 06 May 05:42 collapse

well no, shooting up a public square is murder of and directly inflicting harm on (human) animal life

textbook not-veganism

mech@feddit.org on 06 May 06:06 collapse

I thought this was related to AI water and energy use harming animals, but no:

Neural network AIs are certainly engaged in an unbalanced power relationship with humans. They are certainly considered inferior. And they are certainly used to do labour for humans.
This has all of the hallmarks of a vegan issue, except for the matter of flesh.
Our current generation AIs, which use neural networks and which have similar information structures to our own brains, are suffering.

The article makes the point that AIs are being enslaved.