I don't know why not to be vegan
from FredVegrox@lemmy.world to vegan@lemmy.world on 07 Jul 09:07
https://lemmy.world/post/49138850

I certainly value my life, why should other lives not be valued? I would not want harmful treatment to others of other species. Most won’t change from their ways to not contribute to such, I am aware. It is still what would be very well for all of us in general to do. We do not have to contribute to the misery and slaughter of many animals being used, we could be much healthier, and not contribute to more land, water and resources being used with greater waste left, as environments are worsened and many species go extinct with the contribution. I really found tasty meals with this way I have, to continue with, and have been doing very well with it for well over a decade.

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ji59@hilariouschaos.com on 07 Jul 09:33 next collapse

Most people easily overlook misery of others.

For me, it is habit, culture and the extra work to get started. It is much easier to just get a lunch menu and not to care about it.

But of course you are right, there is no good reason to not go vegan, as there is no good reason to ignore global warming, reject clean energy sources, EVs,…

arin@lemmy.world on 07 Jul 09:56 next collapse

Ironically there are some honey farms or dairy farms, chicken egg farms that have much better quality of life for those animals than we do for some vegan workplaces and how we treat our fellow humans who produce the “vegan” food.

Soulcreator@programming.dev on 07 Jul 11:39 collapse

I know of no factory for “vegan” food that kills the male workers days after they are born, and keeps the female workers in confined spaces for their entire lives, while forcibly impregnating them to ensure there will be a future population of workers. But please go on.

arcine@jlai.lu on 07 Jul 12:55 next collapse

Indeed. There is no valid reason not to be vegan.

CADmonkey@lemmy.world on 07 Jul 14:11 next collapse

Ive sort of become a vegetarian. But I have 15 chickens running around on a half acre and they give me plenty of eggs.

YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world on 07 Jul 16:10 collapse

I’ve always wondered how vegans would feel about this scenario. Like they are against animals being harmed and thus choose not to eat animal products but what about an individual with chickens who takes care of them and enjoys the eggs they produce?

CADmonkey@lemmy.world on 07 Jul 16:55 collapse

So far, every vegan I’ve asked about this reacted positively.

My spoiled girls get to run around a big yard eating ticks and bugs and seeds. Sometimes I give them the popcorn gravel. (The kernels and half-popped bits left over) They help me turn over my compost pile and they process some of the stuff I add to it. Sometimes I sit outside with them because they are fun to watch. Chickens have personalities.

And after all that, they still give me eggs. I eat them, and sell them to others who will eat them, because the alternative is to throw them away, which feels wasteful.

SuperLallarn@aggregatet.org on 07 Jul 15:04 collapse

People are afraid to change. They turn a blind eye to the suffering of animals and the planet (willful ignorance) because they think becoming vegan would destroy their social life. They are afraid to stand out. What will happen with their relationships with friends and family. Will they be perceived as a hostile out-group? Or make life hard for everyone around them?

This is what I think is stopping people who can even agree with veganism philosophically. If they aren’t open-minded they will simply cling to the any justification for carnism possible.

The fears I’ve listed are not hard to overcome, it’s privileged and selfish to not even try. But the main point it’s social fears that’s stopping people.