Creating similar service to AlternativeTo
from Wawe@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 12:55
https://lemmy.world/post/32460849

I am looking to create similar tool to AlternativeTo. This would list different brands and why you should or should not buy them. Is there some software that would be great starting point for creating this kind of service?

I would guess wiki apps would work for this, but like wikijs, but interested to hear is the something else that could be used for this.

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cheese_greater@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 13:03 next collapse

God let this become a thing

ISolox@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 13:04 next collapse

Alternate to alternate to.

ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 13:41 collapse

I used the alternate to destroy the alternate.to

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:02 collapse

I mean they already list alternatives to their site: alternativeto.net/software/alternativeto/ :D

Colloidal@programming.dev on 05 Jul 13:29 collapse

Looks like the Privacy Guides website is open source. It has a recommended tools section that you can use as a starting point.

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:57 collapse

Thank you, I forgot about that. Yeah that could be good starting point!

maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 13:06 next collapse

Never enough alternatives

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 15:03 collapse

As I’ve found out recently, finding true alternatives can be difficult. Take bread for instance. I just discovered Bimbo Bakeries own at least 26 brands. So when you’re on the bread aisle you probably have a moderate to high chance of buying one of their products.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 21:34 collapse

Thats why you should bake your own! Super easy and delicious

damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 13:43 next collapse

Brands of what?

NickwithaC@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:32 collapse

Alternative To only does software so imagine that but for physical products.

damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 02:40 next collapse

Good idea!

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:06 collapse

Yeah, pretty much this.

Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 14:00 next collapse

how technical are you?

You could probably use Notion as a backend and use Potion.so to make the website. Another route is Webstudio + a CMS like Hygraph or Strapi if you want to self host it.

I think this might even be doable on Ycode or Webflow.

At the end of the day what you want is a database with all the products and a relations between each other based on their features.

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:15 collapse

Thanks for recommendation. I am technical, but more on backend side rather than front end. I would love to use something that is opensource. This would probably work, but seems like I would need the create a lot of things “from scratch”. This would be a side project so I am looking something that would be simple as possible.

Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 14:04 collapse

Webstudio + baserow could work and those are both open source

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:28 collapse

Thanks! I will check them out!

SheeEttin@lemmy.zip on 04 Jul 15:53 next collapse

A wiki would be great, since it allows user contributions and a familiar interface.

Not necessarily mediawiki, though. Or maybe something that allows people to submit individual options in a category and vote on them.

Get it running and set it loose!

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:08 collapse

Yeah, end goal would probably create something like this.

NickwithaC@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:29 next collapse

This used to exist:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoodGuide

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:04 collapse

Never hear about this and sad that it got cancelled.

lime_red@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 00:24 next collapse

Love this, and I want this.

I’d consider some of the secondary requirements, which might then inform what you use for the primary requirement.

Have you ever moderated a site or forum? With user-submitted content, you absolutely need a moderation mechanism, and moderators. This site would be a prime target for astroturfing, trolls, and people with beef. The latter are useful for sourcing content about alternatives, but relying on each contributer to moderate themselves is not going to work.

You’ll also need an effective mechanism for receiving and actioning takedown requests (or telling them to eff off, if that is your wont).

All of that comes down to user metamanagement, and user classes. Simpler wiki software is probably designed for trusted users, or a single user, or might require a plugin to handle these scenarios. Mediawiki is stable and capable, but needs tight site design to avoid it becoming a maze. (Actually, that last bit goes for anything you choose. If you don’t impose a structure, you’re going to get a structure anyway, it just might not be the one you or your users want.)

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:32 collapse

Doing moderation is something that I would not want to do at the start. At least in the start all items would be created by me. This would be a side project for me and all user submissions would be verified (if ever allowed). This would be more like personal list rather than huge community project. Maybe if this evolved overtime then it could be something else.

Yeah, wiki might be simplest solution for this, but I was wondering if there existed something more visually friendly. IMO wiki (similar to consumerrights.wiki/Main_Page) is less “pretty” to AlternativeTo. But using wiki could probably be starting point for this.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 04:51 next collapse

you should allow the tracking of UPC codes as well. this would allow a mobile app to be used in-store far easier than by product name.

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 07:01 collapse

Maybe in the future, but my goal for this site is to just list brands and not individual products.

user_5359@feddit.org on 05 Jul 05:35 next collapse

@RemindMe@programming.dev 6days

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 06:48 collapse

consumer rights wiki might be a good place to start

Wawe@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 06:59 collapse

Thanks for sharing! This has same idea that I am have plans! IMO this shows that wiki is bit less user friendly compared to what AlternativeTo has.