Cloudflare is down this morning
from sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 12:08
https://lotide.fbxl.net/apub/posts/316703
from sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 12:08
https://lotide.fbxl.net/apub/posts/316703
I always love it when some massive piece of web infrastructure goes down but most websites I use are self-hosted so the only real effect is I see lots of news stories that cloudflare is down.
#selfhosted
threaded - newest
I am still using cloudflare tunnels for home assistant, so I am a little annoyed. On the other hand this was a much needed reminder that I need to move home assistant to pangolin/newt as well.
NAT may be insecure but it keeps chugging on
I was having DNS issues yesterday using cloudflare’s DoH, so I’m curious if it is going to be related.
Jeff says… www.redshirtjeff.com/shop/p/it-was-dns-shirt
Stop using that solved
Is there any meta analysis on these major outages?
They seem to be occuring more and more regularly.
Maybe Kevin Fang will make a video about all combined?
My prejudice tells me that it’s vibe slopped code.
I saw people speculating about this, but it’ll be interesting to see if that’s really what it was (and if so, if they’d admit it).
I’m sure it was, and I’m sure they will not admit it.
So I’ll throw this into the “conspiracy theory, but probably true” pile; and I’ll try to remember to check snopes.com in 20 years to see if I was somehow wrong.
“Did Vibe coding really routinely break half the Internet is the 2020s?” …assuming the Internet and I are still both around by then…
Edit: I’m already wrong. It sounds like it was computers being stupid is old tried and true ways; not computers being stupid in new trendy ways.
It would be funny if it was because of some AI coding
Please don’t remind me. Had a colleague with a senior title who just vibecoded on our CI pipeline and it ended up blocking deployments for half a day.
It is. Sometimes the big secret turns out to just be what we all thought was happening.
As far as major outages, I can only think of around 10 going back 5 years. Sure there have been minor hiccups and glitches, but gosh, that’s life on the internet.
Yeah I have issues with my home setup at least that often. I can only think of two occasions where the solution took more effort than a reboot. Maybe we’re all just old enough for “every 6 months” to feel like every 5 mins
To clarify, by “issues” I mean “system stoppages not precipitated by me fucking with something.” I screw up my own system way more often than that lol
I don’t know how old you are brother, but it feels like I’m in one of those Star Trek warps where all the stars are just whizzing by.
Same! But the ones I cause don’t count.
It does feel like the major outages are growing closer together.
I want to blame plugging AI where it doesn’t belong, but I suppose that putting everything into the same couple of server closets could be the primary root cause.
Preliminary articles say this was a DDoS.
A DDoS that brings down the biggest(?) DDoS protection provider?
def possible, cloudflare DDoS their own dashboard a few months ago with some react code
blog.cloudflare.com/deep-dive-into-cloudflares-se…
Based on what facts?
A statement from cloudflare blamed “a spike in unusual traffic”, but I guess the actual cause of the outage was a config file generated in response exceeded the max size
cnbc.com/…/cloudflare-down-outage-traffic-spike-x…
Technically a DoS, but not in the most common sense
So it was automation, but that automation might have been stupid the normal computer way, rather than stupid in the new LLM enhanced computer way.
My own DNS is still up and strong. Take that, Cloudflare.
Eggs, baskets, and lessons being taught about how it’s not a good idea to heavily skew their ratio.
Well, unless it came back in the last 25 minutes, it’s working fine in Western Australia.
Still having problems, their status page confirms the issue is still ongoing. www.cloudflarestatus.com
“Further details will be made available when we’ve worked out how the AI screwed us this time”
This really should read: further details will be made available when our AI api is back up and can self-report on how it fucked up
AI: taking another hit of acid in preparation to research the reason why the last thing it did after taking acid didn’t work out.
I Guess many lemmy instances are not as much decentralized as they thought.
I dont use cloudflare at all, so I didnt notice. I do see a lot of recommendation’s to host behind Cloudflare, so if they have a problem you do too
Fallback to Tailscale, or any number of ways to skin the cat. At the very least, everything is accessible locally. I’m not running anything mission critical, so it was more of a minor inconvenience to me.
I didn’t notice and I’ve been on Lemmyverse the whole day, on and off. Different time zone though (Eastern Europe) so I’m not sure how that translates to “this morning”.
Not all instances were burned. Lemmy.world that i use was though. I will make a user for backup in an instance that is not affected by cloudflare.
So what does that entail - the site was completely down, or images didn’t load?
Would I even notice that in my unaffected instances feed? Just no lemmy.world posts at all, or would it leave empty placeholders?
Well my user is on lemmy.world, so even if i loaded other instances i would not be logged in. The site was completely down. Old posts from lemmy.world showed on the fediverse, just no new posts while down (users could not connect or view the site).
Thanks for that!
aussie.zone sh.itjust.works lemmy.world
all were down for me
Piefed.social was too, on my end
That was the biggest reason I didn’t choose it
Cache-ing is a hard problem to solve. For MANY years cloudflare was the cheapest and easiest way to solve the issue.
But the same people that started cloudflare have moved on or passed away. Now its just another corp. So yeah we are going to get downtime. In the corporate world, its the standard so no one is going to move off it.
…unless it keeps going down consistently.
For those who are in the know, does memcache work with lemmy/piefed? What is a good Cache for modern day systems?
Honesty we need a open standard for caching and csam detection.
You mean Cloudflare is down this evening. Timezones, how do they work?
Classic case of US egoism/defaultism
And it’s taken down most of Lemmy’s “selfhosted” images.
I use cloudflare for my DNS 🫤
Use quad9
Thet got DOH?
dns.quad9.net/dns-query here you go
took much of lemmy.world down. I wonder how come I’m seeing some posts from lemmy.worlders though
Cloudflare have a large international network. Perhaps some users could access sites when coming from another region
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1a28afec-48f0-46be-bd32-42e27855e706.png">
Downdetector isn’t working in the app.
Because downdetector is cloudflare
Cloudflare capcha down
TIL that Xitter depends on Cloudflare (I don’t have account, I just wanted to check a specific tweet). They don’t afford their own infrastructure…
sh.itjust.work is down, but lemmy.radio is up. I need to tip them.
I saw many missing pictures today as my Lemmy instance is set to not cache pictures
I don’t use cloudflare but the only reason I noticed is a lot of websites I go on use cloudflare captcha due to me using a vpn. Now I can’t even get on those website due to the captcha being down 😭
PSH, I can’t even pass those shitty captchas when their online. Its just an infinite loop.
As soon as I see s site is behind a cf captcha, I close the tab and go to a different site
So far this year its been:
1. AWS was massively down
2. Azure was down a week later
3. Cloudflare down multiple times this year
Thats the ones that affect stuff at work. Fun times.
It’s a vibe.
Azure was down? Did anyone notice? 😆
Starbucks payments sure did.
Mostly at work. All our stuff was on Azure, so when it went down….I kinda just stood around for the day. It was up/down the entire day. So I went for a coffee lol.
If you’re stuck with Windows at work, you might have. I couldn’t log on to our domain remotely and was unable to open some documents and emails that were signed as “internal use only”.
Dang. I had to look it up, but CrowdStike taking down a huge percentage of Windows PCs was so last year, I guess.
"Whoops"
My services have a higher uptime than AWS, Azure and Cloudflare despite the fact that they are running on 10 year old hardware
Took down Framework’s website, which I was using.
I wish they go down more, at least once a month.
I almost didn’t notice and the all sites I wanted to look had had been archived on archive.org