yeah it took me about 6 months with jellyfin to feel like i was ready to finally kill plex. the thing that finally did it was getting an email from plex asking if i'd like to check out whats streaming on hbomax.

What are you using to watch jellyfin on iOS?

I’m probably mistaken, but I think there might actually be a plugin for this? I haven’t looked into it myself but I swear I scrolled past a plugin listing similar functionality at some point. Or I could be hallucinating. Or it could even exist but no longer work on the current version of the app. Who knows!?

That is coming, I saw a PR for that. Just need to be patient.

I’m pretty sure you can pay for a lifetime access to infuse, cause I don’t think I pay monthly.

swiftfin has reach what i'd call stable on apple tv. its a little janky still with homepods used as speakers. i had to switch the nativeplayer to avoid an audio delay bug. the native player doesn't support auto play next episode. so far thats the only issue ive had. infuse doesnt have that bug but the issue hasnt annoyed me enough to need infuse. all my other uses are on android tv or webos and have had no complaints.
for music, manet has good carplay functionality so its made a nice replacement for plexamp.

I haven’t done a bunch with it. I set it up locally on an old laptop, installed the app on my TV and on the other machines throughout the house. It works great when I use it. I stream a lot of content outside of it so I don’t use it all the time but the interface I really liked. It’s fluid even running the server on a laptop that would struggle to run a zoom call.

Believe I set it up with pop-os, but it could be mint. I haven’t had to touch it in months so I honestly wouldn’t know without going to it. I leave a RustDesk connection on it from my phone if I ever need to get to it.

Jellyfin is a lot better than it used to be, to get feature parity with Plex you will probably need to install some plugins but I literally searched “best Jellyfin plugins reddit” and the list in the first thread I found was all I needed. The webOS, Android, and Roku apps are very good, I’m not sure what the situation is on Apple TV but I think they have an app

Its a pre-authentication gateway and SSO provider for OAuth/SAML. So if you dont trust a random docker container to be secure it requires you to authenticate and then it automatically passes a token to the app for SSO if it supports OAuth/SAML.

authentik is an identity server. theres a couple free ones available, this one just worked for me. it provides oauth and ldap fallback for the jellyfin server. along with login for most of the other servers i host like nextcloud/calibre-web/lychee etc. it has a nice easy log in process along with a 'homepage' kinda thing for everything my users can access with their account. makes it easier to support the non technical friends and family.

The best and most versatile system is having domains and a reverse proxy that has internal and external domains. Ie jelly.example.com and Vaultwarden.internal.example.com

Then you add authentik which does SSO for many app like nextcloud, immich, linkwarden etc. For apps that don’t integrate, you can still use his with reverse proxy authentication (sonarr).

Naturally this is more complex to setup but nothing beats the versatility.

I can choose extra protection for things like vaultwarden (need to connect via wiregaurd). Make things external for other users to access easily (immich, jellyfin, etc). Everything is based on users that are made in authenticatik and they all have the same password with single sign on.

You would approach this is pieces. get the domain and reverse proxy working first. Then authentik. this is only realistic with docker compose.

it's mostly debian 12 or ubuntu 22 lts vms, i'm slow dumping ubuntu. so it's all cron jobs running apt update and bash scripts for specific services like the minecraft server. i'm just old and have spent so much time modifying xml in nano that sticking with virsh has worked for me. i've only got two containers running in docker, frigate and authentik.

Unattended-upgrades or dnf-automatic

Host Jellyfin either by running their easy setup script or by hosting it on docker, in order for it to be publicly accessible you will need to either port forward and give people your external IP or you need to have your own website. It’s very easy with a docker container to get it running locally, you literally just spin it up, the same as Plex.

Their last UI changes

I find Jellyfin’s subtitle search much better than Plex’s. Bonus for leaving a subtitle file right along with your file, instead of buried somewhere else so you can’t easily edit it.

that's about where i was at for a long while. manet finally replaced my apple carplay functionality from plexamp and plex lost it's last advantage for me. i definitely got my moneys worth from that lifetime plexpass though.

For android auto, I use symfonium as it can hook into my jf library

github.com/intro-skipper/intro-skipper solves your intro skipping issue.

https://github.com/intro-skipper/intro-skipper
*edit it's such a common complain this got posted twice at the same time :)

it's just what i'm comfortable with. started playing with linux servers before docker existed. i've got frigate and authentik running in docker, but if i have the option to run something outside docker i still prefer that.

I saw this and was pleased, actually. The relative opacity of containers makes them a validation challenge and hides versioning from standard tooling used for large host populations and/or enterprise.

Even if they sparkle.

i ended up doing both. ldap for the apps. oidc for web based users and the apps that support the quick connect feature. the local user account system works fine too, and ldap would be enough. i just wanted an excuse to play round with sso systems, and it was fun figuring out how to connect all my servers.

authenik has a good docs site for both it's docker container and connecting it to jellyfin. Authelia looked interesting too.

not OP, but this has reared its ugly face once or twice with my friends.

i have been running into another issue, though it may be a firefox issue: playing some filetypes fail to play on web browser but work fine on jellyfin app (i believe my settings are correct for hardware decode on server where it can)

i still have to put some time into figuring it out tho (havent really done my research yet)

This is one of my issue with Jellyfin. It’s a workaround to install the app onto Tizen. Updates are again manual. But zero issues since installation and runs smooth.

Honestly, the easiest thing to do is put it on a mesh VPN like Tailscale and connect their streaming device to your tailnet. If they’re non technical parents then if their TV OS doesn’t support Tailscale, you can pick up a Walmart brand ONN streaming box for <$50 which supports for Tailscale and Jellyfin.

Anything that has a remote interface is garbage. It’s all cursor mouse based except on a few devices.

It’s not as good as Plex by a long shot. If you have Plex pass no brainer. If not, I’d personally just buy the pass. On Xbox it was just unusable.

I am also not up to date on Jellyfin security issues but the biggest one I care about is that its clients don’t support OIDC. There’s a neat plugin for OIDC, but without client support it only works with the web client and I’m not a fan of leaving login pages open to the internet.

Op already said they were behind authentik

There also absolutely are apps for tv oses like Android, I use one daily.

https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin is available for tvOS. works great for me with one bug. since i have homepods connected to one of my apple tv's as it's speakers. i had to change the setting to use the native video player instead of vlc to avoid and audio delay bug. that cost me the auto play next episode function. i though not auto playing the next episode would annoy me, but it's turned out to not be a issue at all. but infuse doesn't include that bug if you want both homepod tv speakers and auto play next episode with jellyfin. as for security, since jellyfin is more modifiable it has a lot more room for misconfiguration for sure. plex had plenty of it's own security issues, we just only heard about them when some security blogger discovered it.

I’ve heard jellyfin has a lot of security issues

The biggest known stuff I saw on their GitHub is that a number of the exposed service URLs under the hood don’t require auth. So, it’s open-source with known requirements, you can tell easily from the outside that it’s running, and you can cause it to activate a LOT of packages without logging in. That’s a zero-day in any package that can be passed a payload away from disaster.

AS far as TVOS, I’m kinda surprised swiftfin doesn’t service you.

To be fair there is a tvOS app in development but progress is slow because the whole project is maintained by a small handful of volunteers. They’ve put out a call for help and the maintainers post updates here

I just validated that the latest version of the LDAP privilege escalation issue is not an issue anymore. The curl script is in the ticket.

This was the one where a standard user could get plugin credentials, such as the LDAP bind user, and change the LDAP endpoint. I.E., bad.

I chose this one because after going through all of them, it was the only one that allowed access to something that wasn’t just data in Jellyfin.

So for me, security is less of an issue knowing that, as only family use the service, and the remaining issues all require a logged in user (hit admin endpoint with user token).

Plus, I tried a few of those and they were also fixed, just not documented yet. I didn’t add to those tickets because I was not as formal with my testing.

@EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world

Yeah, Samsung TVs don’t have a native Jellyfin app either. You can sideload it, but good luck walking your “you touched my computer six months ago and now it’s broken. This is your fault” grandmother through that over the phone.

Jellyfin still so buggy though. The UI is garbage too. I want to love it… I run both lol.

I’ve been using jelly since just after the emby fork and never had an update issue on docker. Automatic snapshots every 5 mins (amoung other backup tools). means I don’t need to worry much if it does.

laughs in immich

Like the version or the media?

I have Jellyfin running for years too and it has never broken for me, I use Linuxserver image, so maybe they delay the updates a bit?.. Now, Immich has broken so many times that nowadays is the only docker I don’t keep at latest (and I know using latest is a bad practice, I understand the reasons, but the convenience of not worrying about the versions beats all that for me)

honestly every explanation probably just ends at 'this is what i learned on and it works'. same way i religiously use nano and try to do everything in bash first. or how a couple coworkers can't stop explaining their vim workflow and defending python unprompted like it's a trauma response for them. my current homelab is also running a r9 with 64gb ram and 30tb storage. if i were paying for remote hosting, still using salvaged hardware or being paid, i'd invest time learning newer processes. but containers haven't caught my interested and this set up takes basically no effort on my part to maintain, so i can focus my limited free time elsewhere.

Stronger compartmentalization

I can backup an entire VM snapshot very quickly and then restore it in a matter of minutes. Everything from the system files, database, Jellyfin version and configs, etc. All easily backed up and restored in an easy to manage bundle.

A container is not as easy to manage in the same way.

This may not be the answer you are looking for, but one method would be to use WSL on windows to run a Linux distro with Docker installed and just migrate everything over, basically 1-to-1. Then set WSL to auto start when you boot up windows. If you install Docker Desktop on Windows, it will also pick up that you’re using Docket via WSL and allow you to manage shit from the client. I don’t do that though, I’m a masochist old-school.

Looks like there is a config and cache location in their docker scripts. The easiest way to make a docker application portable is to bind mount the config and cache. That way you have access to the actual files and could copy them to your windows partition.

If you’re already using a volume for that data, I think it becomes a bit trickier. I know technically you can move or copy volumes, but I’ve never tried. Although you could still bind mount a random directory and still copy the files out.

What about subsonic or funkwhale? I think I also tried a third one I’m forgetting

PlexAmp is so good. Nothing else comes close.

I use jellyfin for unencoded audio and video on my clients that support it like my newer television, but I also use transcoded audio video on things that can’t handle the higher codecs like the raspberry pi.

the ldap auth works great for the apps. apps dont play well with an oidc login process. i ended up using both, oidc for web and ldap fall back for applications. made it easier for my non tech inclined users. most of the current apps also support quick connect, like the plex link process. you auth on a web browser and enter a code into the app. so it's possible to use only oidc for log in and, i believe it should be possible use css to even hide the user name and password fields.

Why? It’s been much easier for me

I understand. I have converted fully to JF which required people to get onn players, and tunnel into my network and it was a lot of work on my end too.

Do what works for you and them.

Host both. Keep plex up for your gma, Jellyfin for everyone else. Tbh Jellyfin is also pretty intuitive. Currently I’m hosting both, but my gma doesn’t use it, so I’ll probably move to Jellyfin.

You could use Radarr and Sonarr to rename all your content if you want to. You can setup your own naming scheme and it will change it for you. As far as I know Radarr and Sonarr work with Jellyfin/Plex/Emby/Kodi etc

i’ve never heard of anyone that keeps dvd menus around. like, i get it for archival purposes but i would never want to actually navigate a menu when i want to watch something. in my mind it’s like sitting through the commercials on a rented vhs. i would probably store a converted copy as well, in a format that would let me specify from the application what track and subtitle i want so i can set a default.