Immich Is Now Stable!
(peertube.futo.org)
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https://piefed.social/c/selfhosted/p/1514441/immich-is-now-stable
from mesamunefire@piefed.social to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 22:15
https://piefed.social/c/selfhosted/p/1514441/immich-is-now-stable
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The presentation is quite funny, I wonder wha-
Welp. I’m out.
It’s for image recognition. Nothing sad about it. Great feature.
Ohhhh ok. Gotcha.
The AI is just image and object recognition and tagging. It’s very powerful (even runs on CPU in docker) and useful. No LLMs here.
I know we all hate AI, but we’re actually angry at generative LLMs. The kind of “AI” that Immich uses is a classifier and is absolutely not the same as ChatGPT.
They should have made this clear in their video.
I would assume its a clip embedder not a classifier and the search is simply finding the closest vectors to the search term?
This is an excellent clarification, thanks.
Fuck LLMs, though.
Not everybody.
(Read the room, dude!)
Not trying to be confrontational in the least. but I am fully aware and autonomous. I thought you guys weren’t down with group think?
Your in the one comment chain talking about hating AI, but that’s group think?
No, your just a contrarian.
I commented on ONE comment…not the whole thread.
However, if I am a contrarian because I have contrary core values, beliefs, and opinions, then vive la différence! Hope you had a great thanksgiving day if you do participate. If not, hope you had a wonderful day where ever you are.
No, that’s not what makes you a contrarian.
What does is coming into the ONE there’s, leaving a counter opinion, and then calling group think when it turns out people disagree with you.
And same to you, remember some people on the internet are autistic and are genuinely this flat in writing.
I’m unsure where the butthurt is coming from.
Well, I’m a contrarian then. I assure you there is no butthurt here. I mean, why would I be? For real? You don’t like AI, LLM, RAG, that’s fine by me and fine for you to express such. Do I get the same considerations? The ’ Read The Room’ comment felt like imposed group think. If I took it wrongly, then I do apologize.
Fully aware and autonomous? Sounds like AI talk to me…
Are you not master of your own domain?
I hate AI that is corporate/state spying that requires contestant constant internet access while burning fossil fuels and raising the cost of PC components.
I love the AI that can help me find photos of my son using my ancient thinkstation that was already old when I got second hand.
AI/ML have so broad definitions that they can encompass many things. The technologies arent bad, the problems are Capitalism and Autocracies.
That was my understanding, that Immich and PaperlessNGX run AI locally on your machine. That’s why the server PC sounds like a fighter jet ready to take off for hours on end when a large library is first added.
Their usage is basically just the same old machine learning that’s existed for ages, long before the genAI bubble started. They really should avoid the buzzword for accuracy’s sake but it’s far removed from all the LLM generative dogshit.
It is actually really useful
You can search mountains and have mountains show up
Didn’t work for me. I don’t have any pictures of mountains, though.
Lol then try to search for something you have
What if I don’t have anything?
In that case, search nothing and everything you have will come up.
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This actually work
You should get some, they are rad
Or if something has the word “mountian” it’ll come up.
Okay, you’re missing out on one of the best new self hosted services because of a knee jerk reaction in that case.
Futo’s CEO being a alt right piece of shit is a better reason.
To my knowledge the Immich devs arent, but yeah.
I didn’t down vote ya but, I am quite certain that if we knew all the little idiosyncrasies, personal core values, or private lives of both open source and closed source software devs, teams, sponsors, equipment manufacturers, components, et al, we’d probably never turn on our computers. I mean, I get it, you are free to make choices. I wouldn’t have it any other way. However, until the dev teams start writing that into their software, I’m ok with them being an alt right piece of shit. It’s kind of like, I enjoy Ted Nugent’s music. It comes up in my playlist every so often. I can’t stand his political stance, but I am able to separate the two without condoning his political core beliefs. Gosh, if I were to listen to only those artists that align with my core beliefs, it’d be a mighty slim playlist. ymmv
Its always amazing how people defend platforming, at best, a white supremacist.
Also, that’s fair from the only complaint in that post with receipts.
Just look at other comment chains replied to you.
No, I am not defending anyone or anything.
It is the easiest thing to give freedom and equality to those we like. It’s much, much harder to give freedom and equality to those we don’t like.
Yes you are defending it, by saying it’s okay.
You should look up the tolerance paradox.
Tl;Dr the ONE thing a tolerant society must be intolerant of is intolerance itself.
I don’t care about your opinions on a lot of things. But intolerance of people for inherit traits is the one thing I don’t stand for.
Nope. Does he not have the right to be an alt-right piece of shit? I’m not sure what country you are a citizen of, but in my country, you most certainly have the right to be an alt-right piece of shit. Oh, and yes I’m very familiar with the tolerance paradox.
Is your country also having a fascist problem?
Because those two things seems to be correlated.
Where I’m from hate speech is (rightly) a crime. Because calling for the death (of let’s make an example of my trans siblings) of a people is still violence.
Ok this has been carried far too long, so I’ll digress the conversation. I do wish that one day very soon, being LGBTQ+ will br as boring as being hetero.
Is there any other info on this besides drew devault’s blog post?
It has links in it. I’d recommend starting with them.
Here is grapheneOS talking about how Futo fucked them over, from the article as an example:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113443396794247106
OK, thanks.
Not really that helpful, it’s just more he said/she said.
Grapheneos is a pretty poor choice of example, it has its own issues, they have conflicts with many others (see France pullout), they have openly fought with Murena, e/os, fairphone, among others. Plus, grapheneos likes to throw shade on “less permissive licenses”, which is really weird, considering they use an MIT license, whose loose terms is abused by many not-so-great companies.
The lead of grapheneos is just as controversial as futo, gets into public spats with others, generally difficult to work with, etc.
I say this using GrapheneOS myself.
I’m not a fan of the Curtis Yarvin association, though.
The people running these companies aren’t perfect. Sometimes they aren’t ideal, either. But I’d rather use Immich than Google photos and heliboard than Swiftkey.
Feel free to draw whatever line or excuse whatever behavior however you like.
At this point I would prefer to support the Immich devs directly without Futos involvement, but thats likely not possible.
Hey, I get it. It’s really difficult these days to tell when to care and when caring will make living in the modern world too difficult.
And I will uphold your right to care about different stuff than I do.
Look I hate AI as much as the next guy and I have it enabled in my Immich instance. It’s been really handy.
It’s classification AI not generative AI. Basically smart tagging. And it’s optional. Super helpful though and runs locally on your machine.
Immich’s use of AI is arguably one of the most suitable cases for the technology and it runs entirely on your own device. I get the hate for AI but this ain’t it
People need to learn the different between (AI) LLM and the AI workhorses known as Machine Learning that have been doing the real heavy lifting for decades.
What does the $100 server key unlock (besides “supporter status”), since features aren’t paywalled?
Nothing. Just helps pay for development.
Oh, so… 100% worth every penny, then. Finally, a software cost with actual benefits.
Edit. It sounds sarcastic, but I’m being serious.
I read that. (I literally mentioned features not being paywalled in the original comment.)
If the key doesn’t unlock features, what does it unlock?
Do you get a little thank you message from the devs when you enter it in? Does it add a “Supporter” tag next to your name on the app settings?
The practice exists in both software and games of adding paid cosmetics (e.g. Discord or Deep Rock Galactic) that don’t change the core featureset but allow users to pay more to support the developers, so I think it’s a valid question.
You get a badge at the bottom left showing you’re a supporter.
Nothing. Just helps pay for development.
Bragging rights and improved sleeping ability from the knowledge that the devs are being supported.
The serious answer is it’s often easier for people in a company to buy a license key than it is for them to arrange a donation to the devs. So this is an easy way to make small donations.
Good vibes only
It’s a donation that is deceptively framed in my opinion, bit of a dark pattern, but the product is fully open source so most give it a pass.
Still container-dependent?
Containers are the best, so probably
If you go into self-hosting hating containers, you’re gonna have a bad time.
I’m running it bare metal on my NAS.
No problems, plus I don’t have to do extra container stuff.
“not running in a container” is not “running on bare metal”. It’s just running outside a container.
I guess that’s true.
I’m running it outside of a container and outside a VM… as there’s no abstraction layer on top of the underlying OS. Which I guess is inside the bare metal.
So, Yep.
“Bare metal” has traditionally meant without any os either. Your code executes directly on hardware and has direct control over everything. Like a micro controller.
Code in a container executes on the hardware in exactly my the same way as code not running in a container - with the os as an intermediary.
Dude containers are often easier than running the underlying programs.
Not arguing with you, it’s just a choice.
The question was whether Immich had to be executed from within a container system… and it doesn’t have to.
Wasn’t it stable like a month ago?
Checking out the road map, nothings changed in a hot second. I think they’re just trying to spread the word about it in general
Yes
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that makes one of us
That video was… something…
Anyway I love Immich. It’s definitely been on a stable release for a bit, but I think they’re just trying to get the word out. A lot of people seem to think it’s still in alpha.
Personally, I’ve been running the same Immich server for years now, rolling all the way up to the current release and I’ve never had any data loss. I just had to read the patch notes and adjust my docker compose accordingly a couple times.
It’s well worth paying for that supporter badge, btw. I’ve easily gotten more than $100 value out of it.
It really was!
It still doesn’t do chunked uploads, right? For who has a low memory proxy or uses cloudflare
does immich have an option to automatically delete older, backed-up pics from devices in order to free up space and not worry about running out disk space on smartphone?
I tried to search the docs and it seems it’s missing
I’ve not seen that option, but I use syncthing instead of the phone application to sync my photos to a specific folder on my NAS which is then an external library for Immich.
TBH, I don’t want anything deleting anything automatically.
I’ll often delete newer pictures of temporary stuff but keep older pictures of my frinds & family, so, that’s not a feature I’d see any value in. It tends to just make me lazy and build up GBs of junk photos on my NAS (and backups…)
That sounds like a great solution to my current frustration that the autobackup feature of Immich on iOS is so opaque. It only works when the app is open and even then oftentimes you’re just staring at the backup screen while seemingly nothing is happening, despite Immich’s backlog of thousands of photos still needing to be uploaded.
Not yet
No but there is a semi work around.
When using the app if you select all images one of your options will be delete from device when you click on that it will say hey some of these might not be backed up and one of your option is to only delete the things that have been backed up. It’s not automatic but it is a way you can kind of just Mass do it to everything
it’s wip, they are iterating it
i think they added it as beta, then reverted, then now is being reworked