Anyone have the experience registering a domain name with false personal information?
from happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 21:17
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from happeningtofry99158@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 21:17
https://lemmy.world/post/32523093
Anyone have the experience registering a domain name with false personal information?
I’m trying to register one but all provider asks for name and address. Anyone have the experience providing false information? Do they really care enough to check your info manually if you don’t use your domain name for malicious purposes?
particularly interested in experiences with cloudflare
thanks a lot
EDIT: reddit.com/…/when_registering_domain_name_should_…
The issue with using fake details is that you risk getting your account suspended. Also, if your domain gets stolen you’ve made it impossible to retrieve because you will have to verify your information.
How can a domain get stolen?
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Might wanna look at njal.la
Unless you’re planning on distributing cp or anything like that it should give you the layer of privacy you want.
I was going to use their service, but I came across this thread: blackhatworld.com/…/is-njalla-still-legit.1521208…, where many people are saying that njal.la is a scam. This is making me have second thoughts.
I have my personal website domain and some selfhosted stuff on subdomains on a njalla for over 5 years. Never had any issues cause none of what I do is illegal.
thanks for explaining
I’ve had 123 Sex Drive as the address on one of my domains for over a decade now. If it’s personal use stuff, not business, you’re fine to put in whatever.
lol that’s a relief to hear
but it’s been a decade maybe the policy have changed nowadays?
according to @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
I mean, it renews every year. The worst case scenario is it’s against the TOS of the registrar and they can suspend your domain. Do with that what you will of course. Also, I was doing that with another domain but fixed it when I moved it to porkbun with their free anonymity service. I wasn’t going to pay domain.com’s ridiculous fees for it.
I did back in highschool, but I have to imagine things are way different now than they were then. I mean, shit, it only cost like $5 when I had one, and I wasn’t 18 yet so all my info was made up.
do you still have your domain?
No. I only had it for 2 years. The domain looks like it’s currently unused too. (Burninhell. com)
thanks a lot for sharing the experience!
reddit.com/…/when_registering_domain_name_should_…
How can a domain get stolen?
Someone compromising your account and transferring the domain away, the register being compromised, someone sending you a fake domain renewal notice (this one I have seen happen)
I have 6 domain renewal notices sitting in my Spam folder now.
Another recent one has been notices supposedly from my email provider saying it’s time to renew. That one almost got me.
I really wish GPG signing of emails had actually taken off. Would have solved this type of problem completely.
thanks a lot!
That means everyone could use whois to look up the name and address associated with a certain domain if no privacy protection is provided by the provider right?
Depends on TLD how strict the checks are, but generally you’re at least violating TOS by doing it and can lose your domain should someone actually check the info. A lot of registrars provide at least whois-security, so they’ll know your real details but won’t share them openly to anyone who asks. I assume if you get into something illegal and court orders to release the data then they’ll happily comply instead of hurting their own business.
But if you just want to keep your real name and address out of the internet, that would be enough at least for me.
good to know!
Using fake information is mandatory otherwise you'll get doxed - the domain ownership is public information, including your full name, physical address, email address and phone number. If someone knows you own the domain, they can look it up using
whois
.I got death threats that way, one time.
@rimu @happeningtofry99158 not even true. Mine shows nothing but the registar.
Many DNS providers offer privacy options. They’ll put their own information in the WHOIS database and forward relevant stuff to you.
Sounds like I need a better DNS provider!
Yeah this has been standard since GDPR. Anyone not doing it is decades behind.
You can give your info to the registrar and then make it anonymous to
whois domain.tld
searches so it’s not public. Cloudflare is the registrar I use these days because it’s a one-stop shop and used the company address but, at least in the U.S., they need your info for both credit/debit card processing. (Processing fees are cheaper the more info they provide but usually any address with the same zip code is enough.)If you have nefarious plans, I don’t have a good recommendation. But if it’s just about privacy, I don’t know if it’s really possible to be completely anonymous anyway. I guess you could use a gift card or something but at least in the U.S., if you own or buy a house, your address is public info already anyway. Shit, city hall will probably give you blueprints of any house.
I don’t really plan on going total anonymous as I don’t have any bitcoin, it’s just that I don’t want cloudflare, a company to have access to my name and address without having to go through some Legal procedures. The domain is going to associate with my real ip anyway. For me it is good enough that my name is not in whois database or go public
and thanks a lot for providing these info. I guess I’m just going to put in false info and argue that is typo in the future. The most I’m gonna loss is 80$
My domain is still set to a former address of mine and I never bothered to update it fifteen years later.
You could provide an address for your registration… sometimes people make typos.
If there’s truly an audit or verification it’ll be easier to explain a typo than why you said you live at “123 Eat Shit Ave”.
I just use a free PO Box service. Then the Whois guard on top.
There’s a free po box service?
In the UK there is one that is pay as you go. (You pay per letter/parcel received)
I just put in the minimum deposit and used that. As long as no one actually sends anything it is basically free apart from the deposit. (I think it was £5)
lol. thanks a lot!
There’s privacy guards these days. Namecheap even offers it for free now.
Most registrars have some form of whois protection now, so the only people who can easily see it are the registars themselves (and the government that controls them).
Assuming you’re paying for a domain using real money, they’ll need your information on file as part of the online payment anyway, so using a fake id doesn’t really hide anything from them.
I’ve had a couple of domains (including one .com) registered under a made-up name for several years, nothing interesting ever happened.
I recently did that and my account was banned. It was not expensive (~$1), but still felt bad
Just use WHOIS protection (which should be free, but whatever).