What else should I selfhost?
from cows_are_underrated@feddit.org to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 01:09
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from cows_are_underrated@feddit.org to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 02 Feb 01:09
https://feddit.org/post/25205148
So, I am soon going to finally set up my first home server. Exams are not that far away, I am motivated as shit, my first own domain is bought and I want to level up my sysadmin skills.
Currently my plans look like this:
- Host Jellyfin
- Host my own NAS
- Some form of hosted musicstreaming integration with my local music
- Automate Backups and push them on my server
- make all of the above things available where ever I want using my own self hosted domain.
- run my own dns
In the long term I also want to be able to host my own webapps, since I will soon start to develop one for someone.
Now I want to know what suggestions do you have, for stuff thats really cool and that I can selfhost.
Edit: thanks for all the replies. Definitely going to look into this.
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Second this.
And I’ll add DietPi is great, easy to run wherever you want. I run it in its own VM on my ESXi box.
I would look into PiHole vs AdGuard home. Lots of people are locked in on PiHole, but they never tried the other and AdGuard is currently more user friendly and easier to use than PiHole. Not starting a flame war here, everyone will have different view, just look at PiHole vs Adguard home and make your own decision (or try both).
Check out Selfh.st
Very good resource. Well written. I know nothing about him but does seem to have a great rapport with Lemmy SH.
ETA: I’m reluctant, but keen to know so, is there some ancient lore that prevents me from asking ‘Is there a reason why noted.lol doesn’t live here too?’ I searched and I did find a handful of references, but nothing like selfh.st.
You’re referencing the deep lore.
Noted.lol was around awhile before selfh.st and was actually pretty beloved on the SelfHosted subreddit. Then the guys behind selfh.st showed up and some of the people who were contributing to noted.lol started giving them a hard time for “copying” them or some nonsense like that. Lots of drama. Now you never really hear about noted anymore.
I kinda figured. Usually long standing comms/chans/subredits have ancient tomes that guide them. I actually find them both valuable resources.
All the things!
/thread /s
ETA: added sarcasm
Since you’re asking on the Fediverse, an Activitypub server would be an obvious choice.
Git repos would be another good (and easy) choice.
For the music, jellyfin can do this and it uses subsonic api which means you can connect to the music server with some mobile and desktop apps. Alternatively i like navidrome for more specialized music service that still uses subsonic api. Some people prefer not having a second service if jellyfin is good enough for their needs.
For backups look into borg if your NAS doesn’t have anything native.
Look into doing let’s encrypt DNS-01challenges via something like acme.sh if your domain registrar has an api. this will let you get your own certs for local use without exposing the subdomains on the domains dns. If you’re going to make them public then that is less important but it’s still a good way to automate renewals and deploying regardless.
Pihole unbound can offer a recursive dns server. Very easy set up.
Outside of the obvious segmenting public zones and firewall, you could self host an SSO service. This would allow you to easily put forward auth on a dev build if you were needing to keep it selectively private until/if you made it public.
In general though, i just wait until i come across a problem or need and then i see if a service exists to solve that. Occasionally looking through the awesome selfhosted list or similar helps find blind spots i didn’t know i had.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
[Thread #54 for this comm, first seen 2nd Feb 2026, 02:10] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]
Headscale, for one. This is probably implied as part of one of your above stacks, but let’s list it out loud. Tailscale is great and all, but it’s downright icky to offload routing of any variety to a third party.
Immich. Turn off Apple or Google’s automatic scraping of all photos, keep usability. Even if you’re not a photo person, at least some of your users are.
Syncthing is or Nextcloud, or something in the family. This may already be part of your NAS plans.
One of the code forges like forgejo, gitea, gitlab. Even when not a developer. Self hosting involves configuration and if you can get that into text and into a history, it makes things so much easier. Add bells and whistles to your hearts content, but these are good suites for a lot of functionality. Forgejo does have federation on its road map, but it’s a while off still.
These are ones I find pretty ubiquitous. There’s so many options once you have initial infrastructure. Email, for instance, isn’t as daunting as the horror stories make it sound, though not as simple as many hope. My suggestion is to take time and do it correctly. There’s a lot of backtracking involved as you learn more, but it’s usually worth it. Best of luck!
Mail is particularly less daunting with mailcow. It just works
Before you even start, consider adopting an ‘infrastructure as code’ approach. It will make your life a lot easier in the future.
Start with any actual code: If you have any existing source code, get it under git version control immediately, then prioritize getting it into a git hub like forgejo to make your life easier in the future. Make a git repository for your infrastructure documentation, and record (and comment/document too if you’re feeling ambitious) every command you run in a txt file or an md file or a script, and do that as religiously as you can while you’re setting up all this self-hosted stuff. You may want to dig it up later to try and remember exactly what you did or in case stuff goes wrong and you need to back off and try again. It might seem pointless now, but a year from now, you’ll thank me.
Especially prioritize getting your git stuff moved into a self-hosted forgejo if any of your stuff is hosted on the microsoft technoplague called github.
That’s a very good idea, will definitely do that.
A Snikket server is cool.
Navidrome maybe, but Jellyfin also works for music.
I’m running:
I have pihole on a pi for DNS.
Isn’t wireguard already pretty easy???
Also unless it changed I thought Plexamp was only available to Plex Pass subscribers.
Plexamp - Nah they made it free for everyone a while back… the sonic analysis aspect is gare kept behind the pass. Iirc But I’m a lifetime pass holder for like a bazillion years … I think my annual average cost is like $4 at this point lol
Wg-easy - truth be told I just started it up this week. I formatted my phone and wanted to try something else for wire guard. But you are correct wire guard is pretty darn easy.
Syncthing so you never have to mail files to yourself again.
FreshRSS for RSS reading
Readeck for saving articles for later (or wallabag, many alternatives)
HomeAssistant
Calibre-web for ebooks
PiHole
Joplin for self hosted notes
Searxng is fun for self hosted metasearch but has sadly been having trouble with Google lately
I remember reading a thread like this a while back and saw Home Assistant. I thought I don’t need that.
It’s probably the most used self hosted app we have.
I wish you didn't have to do things the Calibre way to host ebooks, but whatever effort it takes to sort out ebook hosting must be a pain in the ass, because everything is built on top of Calibre despite Calibre being perhaps the most obtuse piece of "programmer-knows-better" software ever engineered.
Almost every other ebook self-hosted app is just a wrapper on top of that nonsense. I hate it.
You can try to use Komga instead, but it's mostly meant for comic books and it's kinda heavy, honestly.
Have you tried out https://booklore.org/ ?
It seems different enough from calibre and kavita et al.
Have I? I tried so many so quickly I can't even remember.
In any case I'm part of the problem now, because my dealbreaker was having to organize my library in the obtuse alien way Calibre wants instead of the nice, human-readable way I already had. I bit that bullet, so now I'm married to a Calibre format library and thus perpetuating the terrible standard.
Yeah, it’s hard exit that directory structure once you have gone all in.
Export all fixes that… Doing that to my syncthing to sync my files to the ereader. Still looking for a way to get rid of calibre :(
I love Booklore. Infinitely better than Calibre hands down. I haven’t setup Kobo access yet, but that is just going to push it over the edge for me.
It is a little convoluted how it’s set up, but I have a debt of gratitude to the Calibre community for their various add-ons freeing my legally purchased books of their DRM! Which is what enabled me to have centralized library in the first place, since they were all on different services. But now I’ve quit Amazon and have everything accessible from KOreader on my Kobo, via Calibre-web
There's a reason Calibre-web is called Calibre-web. Calibre-web itself is a mitigation for how dumb Calibre is.
A lot of a very cool ecosystem is built on top of this one core piece of weirdness this one nerd made in his own alien mindspace and nobody likes any of the choices in there, but it's inescapable now, precisely because all these other cool, important tools are built around it.
See also: Gnome.
Calibre is so old that it’s use case and architecture precedes the current popularity of self-hosting. It is as old as the premiere of the very first e-ink reader in 2006. It’s not obtuse or weird, it was just the way things were done 20 years ago. The problem is that adapting it to work as a self hosted app or even multi user sync requires rewritting all of its backend from scratch with fundamentally different principles and use cases in mind. And guess what? Everyone is way too lazy to face that massive undertaking. Thus the hobbled together solutions.
Fortunately, one way backup to a NAS works perfectly fine to keep libraries secure. It’s not this way out of caprice, and the Dev is definitely not an nerd alien.
There have been attempts to create modernized replacements for calibre. But they all fall through because, Calibre already does 99% of what they want to achieve. That one percent is covered by addons and shoddy workarounds? Yes. But that’s an effort to reward analysis any Dev is faced with. Calibre does much more than what the average user need, and they keep adding features. Because they’re not catering to one particular user but a community of a complex mix of users. Developing software is hard, rebuilding 20 years of features is daunting.
Nah, hard disagree. Calibre has quirks because it's old, but it also has quirks because it has quirks.
It's not particularly disputed that a lot of how its original pre-web UX was designed and the weirdly rigid, stunted structure of how it wants its libraries organized are a side effect of it originally being a one person project that seemed mostly designed to the preferences of its maintainer. And then there's all that baseline functionality from it being originally meant as a standalone app rather than a self-hosting thing layered on top of all the weird decisions.
I've been at this for a long time. I tried to use Calibre back when it was new, digital comic books were rars with jpegs in them and ebooks just sat in random directories as .txt files. It was weird then and it's weird now. If anything, the crazy ecosystem built around it has made it less weird now that a bunch of stuff is hiding the rough edges behind more modern/reasonable design.
Good, so if you know what needs to be fixed it should be easy for you to make a new alternative, with modern web UX, self-hosting in mind and NO quirks whatsoever.
Really, it’s so easy to insult those who are making solutions when you have never contributed at all. There’s constructive criticisms, but calling people who are fronting free labor for your benefit as nerd aliens is not it.
Hah. You get the "FOSS gets to be crap because you can't do it yourself" cop out often, but rarely when you haven't actually complained about it.
I mean, there are a ton of Calibre alternatives, the point everybody is making here is that a bunch of them don't get enough support or stick to Calibre conventions anyway because Calibre is at the ground floor of the entire thing and has sort of metastasized into a de facto standard architecture. I don't even know that you could make a commercial Kindle alternative and not at least support Calibre conventions at this point. It's like trying to not use HDMI anymore, and for similar reasons.
Unless you're Kovid Goyal (made me look that up and man, what a rough name to have in the 2020s), I don't see how that connects to your response at all. And even if you were, honestly. I've seen some of the other stuff the guy has done and said. I'm not sure he'd take it as an insult and I don't mean it as one. The man made the piece of software he needed the way he wanted, which is very much not universal. It just happens to now be the core of entire chunk of the ebook industry that isn't made by Amazon.com Inc., much to my annoyance.
But since I'm at it, if your software is annoying people have no need to hide their anger or contempt for the ways in which it is annoying, even if it's FOSS. If you put it out there don't be mad when end users act like end users. People who stumble upon a piece of software and try to use don't need to do an audit on your accounts and licenses to know if they are allowed to be mad at the stuff that's annoying them. FOSS competes with commercial software in equal terms, as far as end users are concerned. Some of the ways it competes have to do with privacy, security, code access and lack of fees, but all the other ways, including UX, polish and feature set, still apply.
Yeah, I don’t think you understand Calibre at all, because you are somehow annoyed by it. I get it. But there’s no e-reader on the market that supports Calibre. Quite the contrary, there’s a titanic effort from the Calibre team (it’s been several people since 2009) to reverse engineer support with every single e-reader and tablet in the market that should not be minimized. You’re also painting a picture as if somehow Calibre is the Windows of e-book and everyone hates it but is forced to use it, when in reality that is not at all the case. Yes, it has quirks and people have constructive criticisms, but calling a guy’s name “rough” is not positive criticism. Overall, most people appreciate and like Calibre for what it has achieved and enabled for readers all around the world.
Again, it’s fine if you don’t like it, don’t understand it, and don’t want to understand it. But that doesn’t excuse insulting a person who actively is making your petty life a bit easier and free from corporate control. It takes a very weird person to feel like commenting negatively on someone’s name is somehow appropriate, it’s bully attitude. If that is all the criticism you can bring to a discussion of software, save it for yourself and stop replying. You’re all over this thread complaining, completely unprovoked like a little wuss. No one is forcing you to use Calibre, it just so happen that no one has done anything better, as you yourself admitted in another comment.
I absolutely don't understand Calibre at all. That's been my point all along.
I can tell you that I've actively tried to avoid Calibre when setting up a self-hosted ebook library and I'm currently chugging along with my Calibre-web install.
Turns out, somebody is forcing me to use Calibre, because I promise if I could have stuck with the half a dozen attempts at having a ebook library handle my pre-existing directory structure I wouldn't have wasted a day having Calibre ingesting and duplicating it all, then manually checking that everything came over before feeling safe enough to delete the original repository.
Because that's how it still works as of today, as it turns out.
And again, Calibre gets no more respect from me than... I don't know, Canva. I owe neither of them anything and if I happen to have a bad time using any part of it I feel super happy and safe sharing that on whatever venue seems applicable with as much sarcasm as I see fit. Software is software and end user criticism is end user criticism. I'm being exceedingly articulate and respectful about it, by those standards, speaking with full understanding of what the bad version of this looks and feels like.
Pihole and NAS are for sure goats of self-hosting, however I recommend at least try to host them for some time and figure out for yourself if you like that at all. Then add things as you go, whatever you need you may find options on awesome-selfhosted.
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What are the advantages of Invidious, compared to Piped?
I have been self-hosting Piped for the last 3 years, but I never tried Invidious.
I don’t know, to be honest. I have never hosted Piped.
Seem to have very similar features.
Well my piped instance has been broken since about a week or two ago. It’s not very actively maintained IMO. And I’m not spending a bunch of time trying to implement some shady fix that 1 random on the internet said to do that isn’t the dev.
Are you talking about the “The page needs to be reloaded” error?
The current solution is to use nieveve/piped-backend for the API.
I have used their image before, when there was an issue with Piped appearing as a bot and requiring captcha.
Yeah that’s the error. However the fix I saw was different I think. If it’s just using a different image, I’ll need to look into that.
Here’s what worked for me:
I think it’s the same thing, except I am pulling the pre-built image
Since you’re running Jellyfin already, you can put your music in there and use an app like discrete.app on iOS or something comparable on Android for a better UX
Finamp on Android.
I’m wondering if Android has something nicer looking. Plex has PlexAmp which looks great, Emby’s built in music player in their main app looks terrific, FinAmp is like aestheticslly like the stock standard JellyFin app which is awful.
Discrete in iOS at least is just an attempt at looking like a carbon copy of Apple Music. There must be some good looking g Jellyfin music player on Android.
Maybe www.symfonium.app
There’s also FinTunes… I have never used it.
I strongly recommend Overseerr if you are going to run a video server.
Forget piracy. I only host dumps of my physical media (which at least where I am is perfectly legal), but that thing has an database of international streaming soruces. I use it just as a watchlist and to check whether I have access to a thing on a commercial streaming service already. It is effectively Justwatch for your streaming media.
Immich is a pretty obvious thing, too, if you want to get out of commercial image hosting services.
I'd say, though, that's a fairly ambitious plan, and if your self-hosted apps, your home webhosting and your NAS are all going to live on the same home server I'd certainly figure out security and backups before overcommitting. That plan is a lot of hard drives and failure points you're gonna be wrangling.
This was merged with jellyseer and is just called seer now. I believe it’s ‘safe’ to switch to the develop branch they have available. I’ve had zero issues so far.
github.com/seerr-team/seerr
Hah. Good to know. I haven't refreshed that container in a while and the data keeps populating just fine, so I hadn't considered it. Makes a lot of sense to consolidate all the media server options into one package, though. I'll take a peek at the new one.
A single user PieFed instance
Curious, can you host a single user instance that isn’t available outside your network? I access everything over wireguard and don’t want to expose my apps to the web.
Bentopdf if you deal with PDFs
Omni-tools if you need to convert between 2 formats or units
It-tools for the fun of it.
Technitium dns (and dhcp) server instead of pihole maybe, with advanced blocking app.
Personally, I am running Nextcloud (file backup mostly. There’s a bunch of other options too if you don’t want the "all-in-one"ness of Nextcloud, but I find that it has good integration with lots of apps), Immich (the best photo backup there is), Radicale (my first one, Nextcloud already has similar functionality I think. I use DAVx^5^ on my phone for this, Thunderbird for desktop), Vikunja (to-do list app, partly compatible with CalDAV. I pair this with the Android app Tasks[dot]org and it works quite well), and Forgejo (local git backup, I still use codeberg for cloud backup though). I can strongly recommend all of them, they all work fantastic! Tailscale is also neat to set up if you want to access your local network remotely.
One fun thing you can do is set up a little Minecraft server for you, any siblings/cousins/other family you have or your roommate if you have one of those. I host one using PaperMC, it’s just a survival server for just me and my sibling, it’s quite nice!
I also have notes using Joplin, but I’m using Nextcloud to sync rather than Joplin Server!
Other people have already mentioned Home Assistant, but I personally haven’t used that. If you do have smart homey things though, it sounds really good!
I currently have an assisted Snikket hostle which is an open wrixler.
This is what I’m currently hosting, might find something here that interests you.
AudioBookshelf: Exactly as the name implies Navidrome: Music Streamer MeTube: YouTube/Video Site downloader ConvertX: Converts hundreds of files. Beszel: Dashboard to monitor hardware MediaVault: My own app I wrote to track my Movies, Music, Video Games, Books. AMP: Video game server management software. JellyFin: Movie/TV Streaming Software FileBrowser: Browser based file management software. Radarr: Find Movies, download them. Sonarr: Find TV Shows, download them. ARM: Automatic Ripping Machine, put in a DVD/BluRay, Rips, compresses, and moves to JellyFin. (Huge pain to get working though, for me at least.) Pihole: Network management and Ad Blocker. Octaprint: 3D Printer management.
I have a bunch of other stuff too, like custom written scrips that show the info from Beszel on my Windows desktop via a Widget in RainMeter. Custom dashboard when I first login via SSH. My next thing to experiment with is setting up a custom website to use as a homepage dashboard for my browser, commonly used bookmarks, news feed, email alerts, weather, social media feeds, whatever else I can think of or get working.
And for anyone curious what the hardware is:
OS: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS with xrdp Desktop Environment when Needed CPU: AMD 3700x RAM: 64GB Boot Drive: Samsung 990Evo 2TB m.2 Storage: 2x Seagate BarraCuda Pro 12TB HDD RAID 1 GPU: NVIDIA RTX 2060
Everything. Self host everything, even your pets.
How do I selfhost my bedbugs?
I think you need a Windows server for that.
I do hate myself, but not that much
The comments give some great advice on what to self host, but my advice to you before you start spinning up a million services is to DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.
Seriously, document as you go and you will thank yourself later. Document niche commands you found online that worked, docker compose files, IP addresses/hostnames, where you put that random config file.
There are some great self hosted wiki and documentation products out there, start with that, then build the fun stuff!
Planned on doing that
Hell yeah
I would start with the NAS first. with a proper NAS and a solid network the storage requirements for the rest of your servers lessens.
for example, I’ve got an off-the-shelf NAS solution that hosts all my movies, music, etc that is mounted via docker in my Plex container on a different server. because it’s usually streaming to four different devices at any given moment, and the torrent’s running against the same NAS, I’m using a 10gbe copper line.
depending on your needs, a 1gbe should suffice.
having a NAS would also help with backups. I have a 5 bay NAS, one of them is dedicated for backups of both servers and cloud storage from the NAS (personal files, tax documents, etc).
also, when building your NAS whatever you think you need, double it. if you think 5tb is enough, you’ll want to get 10tb or even 15tb. I current run 15tb(8tb drives) in a raid 10 with a 20tb backup drive.
this kind of configuration allows me to run 1tb or even sub tb drives on my servers and reduces my overall costs to replace if anything goes wrong. with a raid 10 on my primary storage array I can easily replace bad drives.
the only time I’ll really hurt is if my backup drive fails. since it was so expensive due to the volume. but backup drives never fail, right? 😉
unfortunately because of AI all those prices have increased. if I were to build it today it would cost me around $1700. adjusted for current pricing my whole lab would probably cost around $10k (thanks ram!).
good luck and god speed