Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud family (nextcloud.com)
from redcalcium@lemmy.institute to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2023 13:26
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ioslife@lemmy.sdf.org on 29 Nov 2023 13:33 next collapse

Haven’t heard of Roundcube, but it looks cool.

I feel like Nextcloud is going to become Google one day, but I have nothing to back that up other than they just keep adding more and more capabilities

sucius1@lemdro.id on 29 Nov 2023 13:53 next collapse

As long as they remain open source I see no problem with that. I use both in my server and they’re both great products, with the plus that you don’t have to deal with any of Google’s shitty practices.

dauerstaender@feddit.de on 29 Nov 2023 14:16 next collapse

Being open source mean nothing if no one else can continue development, other than that yeah pretty great

sucius1@lemdro.id on 29 Nov 2023 15:36 collapse

Being open source means exactly that, anyone can fork it and continue development if need be. I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say

prenatal_confusion@lemmy.one on 29 Nov 2023 19:26 collapse

Maybe he was talking about capacity to develop further or fix bugs. In theory a community can do that (and actually do in many instances) but sometimes development of a community fork tagnates due to the lack of resources.

Best example to disprove this theory is … Nextcloud. Owncloud went ahead and developed a new version in go to scale more easily but next cloud is the defacto standard for most people that were using own cloud before the fork.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social on 29 Nov 2023 15:34 collapse

Adding a managed services option for NextCloud would be smart. Individual instances that don't share anything, managed by NextCloud and deployable on multiple cloud infrastructures.

1984@lemmy.today on 29 Nov 2023 14:37 collapse

They can’t because Googles empire is built on bait and switch tactics, and if the product is open source, nobody can bait and switch it.

Open source actually guarantees that all shitty behaviors from big tech doesn’t work at all.

redcalcium@lemmy.institute on 29 Nov 2023 14:55 collapse

Yeah, NextCloud itself was forked from OwnCloud because its core contributors didn’t like where OwnCloud was going. I imagine the same could happen to NextCloud the moment it’s getting enshittified.

ikidd@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2023 15:06 collapse

Having seen where Owncloud ended up here recently, the NC founders weren’t wrong.

ikidd@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2023 15:07 next collapse

Been using Roundcube for years in my Mailcow stack. Good product.

porksoda@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2023 15:36 collapse

Same, but with Poste.io instead of Mailcow. Zero complaints.

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 29 Nov 2023 15:13 next collapse

FYI: I’ve been receiving phishing emails disguised to look like Roundcube account related info lately. Looks like scammers have caught onto this news. Keep safe.

Rentlar@lemmy.ca on 29 Nov 2023 15:34 next collapse

Awesome! I enjoyed using Roundcube when I once used a free hosting service many years ago.

A free open source solution to security will help drive adoption, and have people push back against the big players from artificially butting out small independents from the little club Google and Microsoft and a few others have made for themselves.

Moonrise2473@feddit.it on 30 Nov 2023 07:01 next collapse

They say nothing is going to change.

Nextcloud mail is unusably slow AND saves every single email in the database with no pruning, for the joy of a sysadmin that will see the database growing growing growing (from my experience a couple years ago, didn’t try extensively recently)

Roundcube instead is fast and easy to install but much limited. Everything is a PHP plugin developed by someone else who might abandon it at any time and I don’t really like that. Default install is barebones and has less features than outlook express on windows 98.

Almost a decade ago they did a crowdfunding to rewrite it, but it was abandoned , latest commits here github.com/roundcube-next

CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 00:11 collapse

I’ve been looking for a round cube replacement for years and can’t find one. It’s the only mature and still relatively supported FOSS web-based solution I’ve found that fits my requirements.

I’m praying that nothing changes but fully expect it to. I’m going to maintain a fork just in case decided to pull an Audacity.

Moonrise2473@feddit.it on 01 Dec 2023 06:00 collapse

I find snappymail much better than Roundcube

Also, afterlogic webmail lite is also open source and that’s not bad

SwissOS@sh.itjust.works on 01 Dec 2023 06:23 collapse

Yeah, snappymail is what I found as the best alternative that fitted my criteria (docker install and unified inbox). Quickly checked out Afterlogic webmail lite, but I am not sure if it does unified inbox?

Moonrise2473@feddit.it on 01 Dec 2023 11:17 collapse

Unified inbox for afterlogic is enabled only with the pro license (it’s still technically open source since it’s PHP, but you’re not licensed to redistribute it)

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 01 Dec 2023 10:24 collapse

gross. this is like when google bought sparrow and then killed it.

this is all the more reason to donate to mozilla - especially to thunderbird (and thunderbird mobile)

wolre@lemmy.world on 01 Dec 2023 10:28 collapse

If anything, I feel like Nextcloud Mail is the thing that’s going to end up being killed, not Roundcube. Nextcloud doesn’t exactly seem like a company that would buy a superior product just to kill it off.