Tiny Tiny RSS is dead (23.social)
from jeena@piefed.jeena.net to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 08:03
https://piefed.jeena.net/post/252162

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hoppolito@mander.xyz on 07 Oct 08:44 next collapse

I’m always a little torn on projects like this.

On the one hand, I know a few people who have hosted tt-rss and the software worked very well for them and their needs.

On the other hand, software whose maintainers have fascist tendencies, or are at best super edge-lords, and which maintains a culture in the developers and community that’s just super toxic is not something I ever wish to support or be associated with.

I have similar feelings on the hyperland project, or suckless software. What i have personally settled on is to not touch the software myself, and give a slight disclaimer when recommending it to others.

I suppose unmaintained can be added to the disclaimer for this one now. At least we have a plethora of very nice alternatives in the rss space with projects like freshrss, miniflux, and nextcloud news.

jonne@infosec.pub on 07 Oct 08:51 next collapse

I used to run it for a while (it might actually still be running, I’d need to check my VPS and delete it if it is), but I feel like RSS readers kind of got overtaken by Reddit (and Lemmy). I tried going back to it again a few times, but the lack of comments felt off after having experienced Reddit.

sk@utsukta.org on 07 Oct 09:22 collapse
The best use case for RSS for me is getting updates from journals and github releases. Also subscribing to youtube channels feeds is convenient since i dont have to visit their website regularly and can just watch the channels that im interested in.
Scirocco@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 09:50 next collapse

Until reddit shut off the RSS feeds, Geddit (Android app RSS reader for reddit) was very useful to me.

Allowed following of niche/particular subs without drama

Unfortunately, many of those closely focused, well moderated and useful communities continue to exist only on reddit

sk@utsukta.org on 07 Oct 09:57 collapse
reddit still has rss feeds. You have to use the old reddit links, like <#^https://old.reddit.com/r/science.rss>
mbirth@lemmy.ml on 07 Oct 11:37 collapse
rtxn@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 08:55 next collapse

You are literally on Lemmy. The project owner’s views are well-known.

Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de on 07 Oct 09:16 next collapse

They’re the exact opposite of a fascist…

Scirocco@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 09:46 next collapse

But just* as extremist…

  • Approximately. How is this sort of thing measured objectively?
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden on 07 Oct 09:53 collapse

Political “extremity” can’t be measured objectively.

thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 06:32 collapse

How, because Overton window says the opposite

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 07 Oct 09:52 next collapse

Tankies are fascists with left wing aesthetics.

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 13:12 next collapse

It’s sometimes called red fascism.

alphabethunter@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 15:21 collapse

Ah yes, the famous communist fascist… You liberals are just insane.

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 07 Oct 15:23 next collapse

Like clockwork, tankies will call actual leftists “liberals” everytime someone mentions that tankies are fascists who support capitalist imperialism from Russia and China.

cecilkorik@lemmy.ca on 07 Oct 16:31 collapse

Yes, the famous communist fascist. His name is Stalin. You’ve probably heard of him.

In a world gone mad, you have to be insane to stay sane.

Zak@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 16:56 collapse

That’s true but not useful.

It’s probably better to describe both ideologies as extreme-authoritarian or totalitarian. They’re about equally undesirable; when someone has a boot on your throat, it doesn’t matter much whether it’s the right boot or the left boot.

hoppolito@mander.xyz on 07 Oct 12:32 collapse

Sure, no argument with that - although I am happy piefed is rising as an alternative.

I did not intend to claim moral superiority or any absolutes, which is, again, why I just tend to also provide a small disclaimer while recommending that kind of software.

It’s more about giving a small preface to people I care about should they ever end up intending to contribute to certain projects. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable stance to take. But if you think it is and weren’t just doing a social media zinger let me know.

chrisbit@leminal.space on 07 Oct 10:28 collapse

The hyprland issues I’m aware of, but what’s the issue with suckless?

arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone on 07 Oct 12:51 next collapse

I vaguely remember something about some torchlit march (in Bavaria?) and people accusing suckless devs of being Nazis. Also their entire concept is just kind of elitist.

Note that I have no idea if the Nazi claims are true or not.

hoppolito@mander.xyz on 07 Oct 12:54 collapse

It’s a little older, so I don’t have an extensive recollection. Things I have saved are the Poettering tweet pointing out their hostname being ‘Wolfsschanze’, doing their own torch march just after Unite the Right Charlottesville happened, and the expected anti-sjw, cultural marxism rhetoric to go along with it.

It’s a case of no one individual instance being drastic (well, perhaps except for Wolfschanze), but coming together to form a picture which I firmly file into icky-politics.

Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz on 07 Oct 10:06 next collapse

Was it forked at least?

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 07 Oct 10:09 collapse
DarkMetatron@feddit.org on 07 Oct 10:13 next collapse

I migrated two years ago from tt-rss to freshrss and have never looked back. It just works!

bulwark@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 10:51 next collapse

+1 for FreshRSS, I’ve only been using it for about six months but I’m constantly tweaking my config just because I like to play around with it.

JAPHacake@feddit.uk on 07 Oct 16:44 collapse

Yep, been using freshrss for years, works great.

jcolag@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Oct 23:04 next collapse

I’m another conflicted person on this. I ran Tiny for years, so I never hated it. But it had so many updates that assumed that I’d know in advance to update something on the system (PHP libraries, database schema, etc.), and then putting the git repository behind Cloudflare led to a cycle of notifications that I needed an update and then waiting for Brigadoon to reemerge so that I could pull the latest source. And any time that I needed to look for a solution to a problem, reading through the forums made me regret the choice a tiny bit more.

It’s reasonable software, but I ended up moving to Fresh RSS on an in-house server, and that has gone better, but I hope that the Tiny community pulls together something better to keep the space diverse.

CannedYeet@lemmy.world on 07 Oct 23:37 next collapse

I don’t know the ideology of 99.9% of the developers of the software I use. I don’t want to know it. The license is all I care about.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 08 Oct 01:49 next collapse

It’s like saying:

I don’t care about morality, I only care about legality.

CannedYeet@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 04:54 next collapse

The world is full of assholes and it’s not my job to pick a fight with every one of them.

Also, they’re giving away free software. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 05:12 collapse

No, that’s not similar at all. If you have to stop to consider the political opinions of everyone involved in anything you ever do, buy, use… You’ll never end up using anything. Do you actually mean I cannot enjoy old art done in the past because the ones creating it probably had some shitty ideals, opinions or morals?

A shitty person can do something good. Accepting something good from a shitty person doesn’t mean we need to share or support everything about that person. You can criticize one aspect of something and accept the good of the same thing. The world is not so black and white.

Edit: mind you, there’s a case to be made when supporting something good means providing indirect support to something bad. But that is far from accepting you will use software from people with shitty ideas.

deathbird@mander.xyz on 08 Oct 04:33 collapse

Congratulations, you’re not an asshole. 🙃

Also apparently it’s already been forked 🎉

erock@lemmy.ml on 07 Oct 23:38 collapse

For anyone looking for a simple rss-to-email digest I recommend this service: pico.sh/feeds