What Nextcloud document service setup would you recommend?
from AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 08:44
https://lemm.ee/post/62164121

I have nextcloud AIO running, and I see there is ONLYOFFICE Nextcloud Office Libre Office Markdown Editor etc.

Lots to choose from and many combinations possible, What setup are your running and what would your recommend?

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p_consti@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 08:55 next collapse

From what I can tell, OnlyOffice has the best compatibility and the nicest UI (similar to MS office), same as with the regular applications. NextCloud Office is based on LibreOffice (officially Collabora, which is their name for the web product), so again same as the regular applications you’ll have some compatibility issues. That said, if you don’t need compatibility with existing documents or only documents made with LibreOffice, either is fine.

One concern many have is that OnlyOffice is closed source (edit: my bad, it’s been open-source for a long time) and russian based (edit: partially russian, see Wikipedia), while LibreOffice is open source.

AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 09:28 next collapse

OnlyOffice claim to be Open Source github.com/ONLYOFFICE Is that just a deception? and their core code is closed source?

If that’s the case I’m likely going with NextCloud Office, one of the reasons I’m hosting nextcloud etc. is to move away from proprietary software and to OpenSource

khorovodoved@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 10:03 collapse

The comment above is wrong. OnlyOffice is available under both Foss (Community Edition) and proprietary (Enterprise Edition) licenses. The proprietary version is paid and offers some additional features like extended support.

khorovodoved@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 09:58 collapse

OnlyOffice is open source and Latvia based.

p_consti@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 10:22 collapse

Latvia is partly involved, yes, but it’s also part Russian and recently moved to Singapore. You may find the history section on Wikipedia interesting; it also lists the russian part-ownership as reason for many users leaving OnlyOffice (and I’ve seen quite a few posts on that at the time).

As for the open-source part, I stand corrected, thank you

khorovodoved@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 10:59 collapse

My point still stands.

The developer is registered in Latvia. Yes, it had at one point connection to Russia, so what? A lot of software was developed in Russia. Nginx, for example, that does not prevent millions of websites from using it.

Users leaving OnlyOffice is mostly about enterprise edition (paid) users. In fact, many of them left enterprise version for the Foss version.

pescetarian@lemmy.ml on 23 Apr 16:07 collapse

I’m afraid you don’t understand when they say that the Russians are evil behind this, and when they shouldn’t, they will just keep silent. This is how double standards work. 😀

BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de on 23 Apr 09:23 next collapse

I used to use OnlyOffice, but switched to Nextcloud office because I like the UI and the documentserver better. Easier administering and the official solution

Flamekebab@piefed.social on 23 Apr 10:54 next collapse

What are your requirements?

AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 10:56 collapse

Myself and my family will be using it to replace Microsoft/Google products

Excel, Google docs, word, pdf etc.

poVoq@slrpnk.net on 23 Apr 11:11 next collapse

What you need to be aware off is that the LibreOffice based options run a full headless LibreOffice client on the server for each connecting user and stream the view as tiles to the webclients. If you mostly use low power devices to access your office files remotely this can be great as it offloads the processing to the server. But I think in most home server or VPS settings the server speed is the more limiting factor.

OnlyOffice on the other hand runs entirely in your browser and thus puts little extra strain on the server.

AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 12:26 collapse

Thanks, this is very useful to know

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz on 23 Apr 11:25 next collapse

Nextcloud Office (aka Collabora) has been the nicest in my experience.

I came from google drive. I did a google takeout of my drive contents, dumped it into nextcloud, and every document so far has opened without trouble.

themachine@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 16:13 next collapse

OnlyOffice has been working fine for me though I’ve not used it in serious capacity.

I initially started with Collabora but for some reason I couldn’t get it working. This is surely not an issue with the product though and entirely my fault.

ikidd@lemmy.world on 23 Apr 16:29 collapse

I’ve been using the Collabora option for the mastercontainer since the start of the AIO, it’s worked well for my users.