What’s the newest way of watching YouTube?
from asbestos@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:30
https://lemmy.world/post/24204971

As it stands, both Piped and Invidious are dead. Because od that, I almost completely stopped watching youtube but l’d still sometimes like to check what the people I follow posted (I used to do that via Piped). Are there any new ways of following people without actually using Google? I’m aware of the tools that download new videos as they come out but I’m more interested in just “subscribing”, kinda like RSS?
Ideally it would be on iOS

Edit: I found it, “Unwatched” on iOS is awesome, thanks to !FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone

#selfhosted

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a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:32 next collapse

Grayjay by FUTO has been working well for me

asbestos@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:34 next collapse

Forgot about that one but it’s only on Android (mobile-wise)

a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:39 next collapse

Oh, I wasn’t sure what platform you needed. For iOS, yeah I have no idea. For anyone else that comes across this though, Grayjay also has a desktop app now

over_clox@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:45 collapse

Sorry to be the bearer of good news, but you’re wrong…

grayjay.app/desktop/

vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 09:41 collapse

Grayjay started shitting the bed on me recently (Android via Samsung and Graphene, and on Desktop Linux/Windows) unless I disable vpn.

Even with Agent andDNS whitelisting for the apps.

A bit of a bummer after recently donating.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 13 Jan 16:47 collapse

That’s not GrayJay. That’s YT. They’ve started blocking access to users who use a VPN without logging in.

God forbid they don’t know everything about you.

Edit: response from FUTO

Seems to be related to UMP streams and we have issue opened for it and it’s top priority for us to fix this now. It is however very complex so it takes time to fix it but at least we figured out why it is happening and once it is fixed it should be a smooth experience on Youtube at least for a while until they change something else on their backend…

vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 17:25 collapse

Aye, that was my suspicion. Really awesome to be stripped of options for privacy so they can suck down that data.

Yt-dlp still works thankfully.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 12 Jan 22:34 next collapse

Freetube and mpv (uses yt-dlp in the background) work well for me 🤷

Anti Commercial-AI license

CubitOom@infosec.pub on 12 Jan 23:27 collapse

I love freetube for my android and Linux PCs.

aimizo@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 16:18 collapse

Freetube works well on windows and macos too

NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 22:41 next collapse

Self hosted Invidious still works

revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Jan 22:45 next collapse

Newpipe still works on Android.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org on 13 Jan 01:32 collapse

PipePipe has even more sources.

masterofn001@lemmy.ca on 13 Jan 01:56 next collapse

I thought I was the only one.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org on 13 Jan 04:04 collapse

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

bruhduh@lemmy.world on 14 Jan 12:44 collapse

Pump these numbers up brotha

stardust@lemmy.ca on 13 Jan 04:17 collapse

I like that pipepipe provides an option to use a Google account fall back for videos that are age verified, since those don’t work anymore without an account.

And they got a content filter update too so can block channels and keywords.

jcolag@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Jan 22:48 next collapse

I believe that YouTube supports RSS. I haven’t used it in years, but gPodder allowed subscribing to channels.

Ah, yeah. From this post:

  • Go to the YouTube channel page.
  • Click more for the About box.
  • Scroll down to click Share channel. Choose Copy channel ID.
  • Get the feed from https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id= plus that channel ID from the previous step.

From there, something (like a podcast client) needs to grab the video.

Otherwise, I’ve been using Tartube to download to my media server, which is not great but fine, except for needing to delete the lock file when it (or the computer) crashes, and the fact that the media server hasn’t the foggiest idea of how to organize the “episodes.”

asbestos@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 00:51 collapse

Thanks for this! It actually works with a regular RSS reader, nice!

Aku@lemm.ee on 12 Jan 22:58 next collapse

Anything work for iOS? I was using a side loaded app but it recently stopped working.

Marmanvii@lemmy.one on 12 Jan 23:44 next collapse

github.com/arichornlover/uYouEnhanced

Rexios@lemm.ee on 13 Jan 01:59 collapse

I’ve been running this for my whole family and friends for years at this point. Way better than any browser based solution.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org on 13 Jan 00:55 collapse

Brave.

JamonBear@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jan 22:59 next collapse

yt-dlp --sponsorblock-remove all <url> is the way. It turns playlist link into nicely named, curated video files awaiting to played by a regular video player

IronKrill@lemmy.ca on 13 Jan 00:55 next collapse

Does “all” remove every type of segment? Because that seems excessive for most people, there is a lot of filler/etc sections that are over-zealously tagged.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 01:14 collapse

That seems like it would screw the creators more than YouTube.

AtariDump@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 09:36 collapse

Possibly, but for how ad laiden YT has become it’s a path I’m willing to take.

albert180@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Jan 23:04 next collapse

NewPipe or Patched YouTube App using ReVanced Manager

d00phy@lemmy.world on 12 Jan 23:58 next collapse

On iOS, I uninstalled the app and use Brave for YT & if I need to get on Reddit.

stardust@lemmy.ca on 13 Jan 00:10 next collapse

I was going to recommend android apps until I saw iOS. I don’t know anyones that let you keep a local subscription like newpipe does without needing to sideload. So if there are I’d be interested.

fitgse@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 00:21 next collapse

I was using freshrss which can grab the rad feed for a channel, but I’ve moved to tube archivist with a Jellyfin plugin. Now they are all predownloaded and just show up on my tv via Jellyfin app.

It’s a way better way to keep track of what you want to watch.

Konraddo@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 00:59 collapse

Just curious if there’s a setting in any of those applications that removes downloaded videos which have been watched at least once, and after x amount of time? It’s sort of like a watch list. If watched, I don’t want to keep the video. But if I do, I can add it to a playlist and let PinchFlat download it for archive.

Mora@pawb.social on 13 Jan 07:30 collapse

Deleting after x days is possible with Pinchflat, iirc.

Konraddo@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 12:20 collapse

I don’t think it checks if the video is watched in Jellyfin.

mbirth@lemmy.ml on 13 Jan 00:29 next collapse

I’m using News Explorer for my RSS feeds which also supports subscribing to YouTube channels. In the newer versions it even pulls the comments from YT.

asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 00:36 next collapse

grayjay.app

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 13 Jan 01:08 next collapse

“Absolutely proprietary”

refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Jan 01:40 collapse

Yeah, but at least it’s source available :P

Non-commercial clause, for those who are curious.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 13 Jan 03:25 collapse

It doesn’t allow for forking so it is effectively proprietary. It is critical that the community can fork something when they don’t like the direction.

refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Jan 04:13 next collapse

Oh, I didn’t know that. Yeah, I don’t like that at all.

I use Tubular (Newpipe with Sponsorblock) from polymorphicshade, though lol.

Been a NewPipe user since the very first alpha

CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz on 13 Jan 04:21 next collapse

I agree that’s an important aspect of open source, but for me personally it’s more about being able to audit what is running on my machine. the fact that they show you the code lets me see and confirm for myself that they aren’t doing anything shady like spying. Though it might not be good enough for some people it definitely is for me.

It’s a level of transparency you won’t ever get from truly “proprietary” software.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 13 Jan 15:18 collapse

My concern is that FUTO will start claiming that some other third party clients are stealing the code.

Be mindful that you don’t look at the Grayjay code before contributing to something like Newpipe

Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca on 13 Jan 06:55 collapse

it does allowing forking and redistributing, but you cannot remove or obscure functionality related to payments. gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/…/LICENSE.md

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 13 Jan 15:15 collapse

It doesn’t respect the 4 freedoms thus it isn’t foss. Use it if you want but keep in mind that FUTO has full control over the rights of Grayjay.

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe on 13 Jan 08:13 next collapse

My only issue with Grayjay (both Android and Windows app), is you have to manually export the videos out of Grayjay

If you try to grab the files directly, they don’t work.

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 09:15 collapse

It hasn’t been working lately. Videos stop at 0:59

asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 11:17 next collapse

Hmm, I haven’t had that issue

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 12:24 collapse

Eh fuck it, I’m enjoying freetube now

Ulrich@feddit.org on 13 Jan 16:52 collapse

That’s a YouTube/VPN thing. Every other app is experiencing the same issue, in my experience.

Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 18:12 collapse

Aaa you were right thanks! What a relief

pedroparamo@lemm.ee on 13 Jan 00:50 next collapse

I am already paying for proton vpn for other reasons and connecting to other countries that don’t allow ads seems to work. It even works on NVIDIA media player and I might even assume Apple TV. I just lost my premium today so yeah

Edit. Just noticed this is a self hosted sub, I’ll just leave this in case someone needs the info but otherwise I’ll delete

water1309@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 05:17 collapse

What countries might that be?

razm@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 08:35 next collapse

Less developed countries who need their bandwidth more than you or countries at war… so not really a good idea after all.

pedroparamo@lemm.ee on 13 Jan 12:28 collapse

Albania and Azerbaijan have worked for me.

rammjet@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 00:57 next collapse

My personal Invidious server works just fine.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 13 Jan 01:08 next collapse

I just use Newpipe

However, Piped and Invidious are not dead. YouTube is trying really hard to kill them but they still work somewhat. It is a cat and mouse game.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 13 Jan 21:30 collapse

They’re effectively dead. I haven’t ever found a single instance that works for more than a few days in years, despite people constantly recommending them.

madeofpendletonwool@lemmy.world on 14 Jan 12:39 collapse

Probably because people self-host them. I have an invidious instance self-hosted and use clipious on android to watch videos on it. Feels super modern and have pretty much no issues. Public instances usually don’t work because of datacenter ips get blocked by YouTube.

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 13 Jan 04:05 next collapse

As others have said, invidious is not dead, and they’re working on factoring out the part that interfaces with YouTube itself, so that updates to react to changes in YouTube will be able to be implemented much faster.

SolarPunker@slrpnk.net on 13 Jan 08:25 next collapse

FreeTube still works for my Linux system, for most videos.

turkelton@lemmy.world on 14 Jan 22:55 collapse

same

rosco385@lemm.ee on 13 Jan 08:37 next collapse

I used NewPipe for a while, now I’m trying out a fork called PipePipe. github.com/InfinityLoop1308/PipePipe

jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 09:29 next collapse

Revanced and Firefox + uBlock Origin.

First one’s hard to set up, but I’m sure anybody self-hosting literally anything could do it in two seconds.

lent9004@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 09:36 next collapse

Addressing the subscribing part; I had similar requirements, so I started subscribing via FreshRSS while using a custom theme to give it a YouTube-like experience.

I shared the setup a few month ago here: lemmy.world/post/21381606

Edit: One of the benefits of using selfhosted RSS with a web interface is that it is platform agnostic.

rhys@mastodon.rhys.wtf on 13 Jan 09:58 collapse

@lent9004 @asbestos Holy crap, that looks like an awesome way to use Fresh. Thanks for posting it.

lent9004@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 18:01 collapse

No worries! This setup ended up working better than I thought, and I’ve been using it as my primary way of interfacing with youtube.

Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de on 13 Jan 15:23 next collapse

On my phone I still use LibreTube but with the option to load the video directly from YouTube (essentially doing what NewPipe is doing) and on PC I just use YouTube’s directly. I still use Piped to keep my subscriptions synchronized tho.

archy@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 17:03 next collapse

piped.video still works for me: subscriptions, categories, comments. Watching is MPV

Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de on 13 Jan 17:11 next collapse

github.com/alexta69/metube and Plex

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 Jan 18:47 next collapse

Unwatched is great on ios.

slug@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 18:50 next collapse

it’s so pointless

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 Jan 18:54 collapse

? its pointless to watch videos without it being tracked to an account and with adds removed?

randomuser38529@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 20:40 next collapse

This is awesome, thank you!

asbestos@lemmy.world on 14 Jan 15:47 collapse

Whoa, this is it! This is what I’m looking for

slug@lemmy.world on 13 Jan 19:58 next collapse

i “subscribe” via rss in freshrss, just use the normal youtube.com on desktop and mobile browser. StoptheMadness on iOS to strip ads

Mosfar@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jan 20:39 next collapse

Orion browser works fine for me on iOS

hyperreal@lemmy.hyperreal.coffee on 14 Jan 11:14 collapse

I just use yt-dlp and VLC ¯\(ツ)