Are we doing crimes when scrapping data online? For example public available music? (jeferson.me)
from Shin@piefed.social to programming@programming.dev on 16 Apr 08:21
https://piefed.social/c/programming/p/1987216/are-we-doing-crimes-when-scrapping-data-online-for-example-public-available-music

I’m trying to get to a reason on this, but my point reach to a limit.

I’ve the feels that scraping the internet for public accessible data, like for example open and public music on Spotify wouldn’t be a crime, but the distribution would be. At the same token, this is seem as a crime, while Google does the same and nothing happens, even worse, if this get regulated, Google would have a huge advantage on anyone else.

So, my deeper question is: “Is copyright dead?”

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esc@piefed.social on 16 Apr 09:14 next collapse

I can’t care less about copyright and ‘crimes’ of copying.

middlemanSI@lemmy.world on 16 Apr 09:56 collapse

I guess you never created an original of anything? Maybe I read that wrong…

Shin@piefed.social on 16 Apr 10:43 next collapse

With the slow-death of copyright, what else is left? And if not dead, how can we reclaim it? I’ve so many questions, and I can’t focus on a single thing :(

esc@piefed.social on 16 Apr 11:52 next collapse

I did, obtaining a monopoly on it would go counter my beliefs. Anyway originality is overrated and very hard to measure. Especially now.

Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus on 16 Apr 12:20 collapse

I’ve written more than one piece of software, and plenty of wordpress themes. I always release them without a license, for anyone to use however they want. copyright is capitalist nonsense and only exists to gatekeep creative freedom and stifle innovation.

middlemanSI@lemmy.world on 16 Apr 13:40 collapse

I hate capitalism and the way it devalues people, reducing them to consumers. The fact remains we live in it, and have to eat. If you release everything to AI crawlers, what do you eat, assuming you don’t lay tiles for a living, which would make you “rich” but very busy…

phonics@lemmy.world on 16 Apr 09:41 next collapse

Google would have some kind of licence in place I suspect. But what about people with photographic memory?

one_old_coder@piefed.social on 16 Apr 09:49 next collapse

It’s illegal but all AI companies do it more than you’ll ever do. You have my permission.

I still buy on Bandcamp because they deserve it.

misk@piefed.social on 16 Apr 09:52 next collapse

Not only copyright is dead but so is licensing of things in general. This means there’ll be less original work from both commercial and non-commercial projects. Commercially there won’t be ways to profit so why bother. On the libre licensing front why would you contribute code to GPL licensed projects or release art under Creative Commons if it’s going to be license washed anyway?

Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus on 16 Apr 12:12 collapse

no, in almost all cases internet piracy is not a crime. it is a civil issue. now if you were scraping information that wasn’t public, that could be a crime depending on the circumstances.