Looks like I’m sticking with good old nvim for another dozen or so years

Lmao I had a boss who was soo enthusiastic about Zed…

I tried it once but it somehow newer clicked for me, I’m kind of happy now that it didn’t

Oh, and I just head about the fork that reached 1.0 recently. Not that I use it or Zed in the first place, but I’m glad people have options to escape enshittification!

Well that didn’t take long at all. 😕

I’m gonna give that fork a try today.

I find such agreements very troubling, because it gives up public funded dispute resolution for private which nearly unanimously benefits larger entities

For starters, check if that term is valid in your country’s legislation. Where I am for example, no contract with a foreign entity can legally retract your rights of legal representation, so any ToS you agree to that have this clause would be automatically considered invalid and you can happily eg.: start a class action lawsuit (with other users in your country).

(tbf, in my country ToS are not even considered legal contracts in the first place so we’re somewhat better than that, but still I do get that other countries are ~*Worse*~)

For those that don’t know what any of that means (like me 5 minutes ago):

Arbitration is an alternative to going to court. Instead of suing each other in front of a judge, both parties agree to have a neutral third party (an arbitrator) settle disputes privately. It’s usually faster and cheaper than traditional litigation.

The class action waiver means you give up the right to join with other users in a class action lawsuit against Zed. So if many users had the same grievance, they couldn’t band together, each person would have to resolve their dispute individually.

Why tf are they afraid of being sued or class actioned against?

I haven’t really used zed much and I’ll delete my account and uninstall, just to show them that this sucks.

WTF? According to the project page on github, at least some of it is AGPL. It can’t have restrictive “terms of service” on top of that!

{
    "disable_ai": true,
    "title_bar": {
        "show_sign_in": false
    }
}

laughs in Emacs

It is unfortunate though, since Zed did seem to have potential. But I can’t say I’m surprised given their focus on vibe coding instead if making a good editor.

Well then there is not even a single reason for switching from VS Code for a normal dev. When I tried it in Debian with a normal laptop, it continuously caused freezing, because it kinda throttled the integrated graphics.

I really wish there is an editor that support vscode’s devcontainer like containerisation, but open source. I really don’t like doing it manually. Too much effort for something that can be autonated.

I presume this thread is about this bit:

Arbitration. The updated Terms include a binding arbitration clause with a class action waiver. Arbitration provides a faster, lower-cost resolution process for disputes between individual users and Zed compared to traditional litigation. We recognize this is a meaningful legal trade-off, which is why we include a 30-day opt-out window after you accept the Terms. Section 15 has the full details, including how to opt out.

This why you just stay within the realm of our pure open source.

Vim, neoVim and emacs. Lean to use in combination with other tools like tmux and you have an excellent working environment. These are tools that are contributed to by the best of the best OGs out there.