Getting Forked by Microsoft (philiplaine.com)
from boramalper@lemmy.world to programming@programming.dev on 21 Apr 14:14
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Zenlix@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 14:23 next collapse

Does the MS version have stuff that would be incompatible with the original?

If not they made an absolute shitty move.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 21 Apr 15:54 collapse

Luckily there's another shitty move that could force MS to close down the fork: Patenting.

Zenlix@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 17:37 collapse

But has the original author the patent?

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 21 Apr 17:37 collapse

No, but they definitely could file one.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 13:01 collapse

Huge cost out of spite is something a person doing open source is unlikely to do.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 14:38 next collapse

This experience has also made me consider changing the license of Spegel, as it seems to be the only stone I can throw.

Dude used MIT license without knowing why GPL exists, then got upset. If you use MIT, you use it because you absolutely do not care if your work is appropriated by others, especially corporations.

It’s like he put furniture on the curb with a “free” sign on it and now is upset his stuff is being sold at an antique store.

He has no reason to be salty because he had in effect told Microsoft to take everything and don’t give anything back. So yeah, he should change it to GPL like yesterday. GPL was created because of the problem he has now faced.

Deebster@programming.dev on 21 Apr 14:44 next collapse

[MIT] does not allow removing the original license and purport that the code was created by someone else.

Sounds like it wouldn’t matter which licence he used. Shitty behaviour from Microsoft.

enemenemu@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 14:58 collapse

Microsoft’s still has MIT license

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 15:07 collapse

They deleted the original copyright notice which is basically the only requirement of the MIT licence. The software is stolen.

enemenemu@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 16:13 next collapse

You’re right, that’s gone

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today on 22 Apr 07:23 collapse

They deleted the original copyright notice which is basically the only requirement of the MIT licence. The software is stolen.

Lol reminds me of a movie…


 [the crew is being told their sweded movies have to be destroyed]

Mr. Rooney: “The FBI Warning is at the beginning of the tape.”

Jerry: “But we erased that!”

– Be Kind, Rewind (2008)

kensand@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 14:57 next collapse

IMO, the issue here is that Microsoft appears to have violated the MIT license requiring inclusion of the original author’s copyright notice. I think he has every right to be salty about that violation.

In your analogy, the sign on the furniture says:

Free, but if anyone asks, you got this furniture from <name here>.

Microsoft took the furniture from the curb, but isn’t telling people whom they got it from.

I agree in regards to your opinion that he shouldn’t be complaining about the fact that someone forked his project, that just the nature of the MIT license. However, I do think he is justified in being upset that the license was violated. Hopefully this gets remedied; it’s not hard nor expensive for Microsoft to add his name to the copyright notice in the license.

enemenemu@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 14:59 collapse

I’m on your side but we shouldn’t mock op but support him.

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca on 21 Apr 15:08 next collapse

This is not just a case of MIT vs GPL. Microsoft has violated the MIT licence.

agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works on 21 Apr 20:38 next collapse

And that kids, is why you don’t use the MIT license for stuff you don’t want a huge corp to appropriate.

enemenemu@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 21:25 next collapse

They added the attribution

github.com/…/15aa104827b5552d48a7462eef6d040eca2a…

github.com/Azure/peerd/issues/109

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 22 Apr 06:37 collapse

Not specially you, just a comment about the license: OP’s problem with attribution is minor. The major problem they have is that Microsoft took his time to get a personal intro to the project, forked it and didn’t contribute back. That’s what he’s unhappy about. That there was no attribution is barely important.

Yes, choosing MIT doesn’t require hem to contribute back and it should’ve been a restrictive opensource license, but it seems he really thought they asked for a call in order to join in on the development.

Anti Commercial-AI license

enemenemu@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 09:17 collapse

Thx for the clarification.

reddit_sux@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 07:40 next collapse

I feel this is why GPL exists, corporations are wary of copying it or forking it. It is very restrictive, you shouldn’t use it if you don’t care if the forked project doesn’t attribute you or doesn’t contribute anything upstream.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 12:55 collapse

No surprise, MS pulled the exact same thing with AppGet, now WinGet.

At this point, be very wary if MS approaches you for your project.