Separate community for AI coding?
from codeinabox@programming.dev to programming@programming.dev on 01 Feb 08:30
https://programming.dev/post/45013854
from codeinabox@programming.dev to programming@programming.dev on 01 Feb 08:30
https://programming.dev/post/45013854
I’ve been thinking, would it be worth creating a separate community for AI coding related articles and discussion? I know there is !Aii@programming.dev, however AI coding has a lot of overlap with !programming@programming.dev.
I know some people have expressed they aren’t interesting in reading these articles, so a separate community would make it easier for them to filter them out. Rather than simply vote them down as they aren’t interested in the topic.
Or is it better to have broad communities in Lemmy given the current number of users?
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Although I am very, very sceptical about the value of LLMs in the programming context this is now a reality that we have to face. Looking the other way won’t solve the issues surrounding the topic. I don’t think a separate community is necessary or helpful.
I think !programming is not the place for ai-programming related content. Most people in this community will just downvote or ignore anything concerning ai-programming, so that the topic will never have a chance to be discussed in this community.
So if you want to make it possible for interested people to talk about the subject, a dedicated community is a must.
Is this answer generated? It doesn’t say anything OP didn’t address already.
No, I’m just a classic idiot. I don’t need any of those fancy new tools for that.
Hehe sorry, don’t mind me.
I’ve been tempted to make my own thread on this. There’s too many AI related posts and I, personally, really don’t want to see them. So for me it’s really a question of whether to introduce a rule to disallow AI related posts (and move them to a dedicated community), or me having to stop participating in this community altogether.
As much as I dislike AI, programming is a field where there’s always something for someone to hate. E.g., should we ban C++ articles because there’s a lot of Rust fans that hate them?
Your two options are not exclusive. Just create a community to discuss AI programming, cross post to the generic programming community if you think it’s relevant, and let people upvote/downvote as they see fit.
AI “programming” is not just something that people hate.
It’s something that is wrong on a technical, moral, ecological and social scope.
It’s like saying that you don’t want racists posts to be banned because “people always complain about something, some don’t like vegetables and some don’t like racism”
You can’t compare racist posts, which are a form of hate speech and a breach of this instance’s code of conduct, with discussions about topics that you don’t agree with.
AIs are effectively destroying the word, causing huge social and environmental issues.
They might not have the same individual impact, but it is unequivocally and hugely immoral.
I agree with you on that point, and the same could be said about the meat and dairy industry. However I don’t think the answer is censoring discussions about cooking beef or chicken.
Not a perfect analogy, but as far as a lot of people’s sentiment goes, it would be more in line with a world in which only vegan cooking methods existed, but some people discovered that you could also eat animals. In which case it would be very understandable that recipes involving meat should not be discussed in existing cooking related communities.
I say yes. I’m wholly uninterested in the topic and do not consider vibe coding to be programming. It’s just the speculative art of prompting.
I still have my reservations, but I’ve changed my mind about “vibe coding”.
Juniors vibe coding? Awful idea. It stunts learning. Non-programmers vibe coding? Aside from small scripts, anything exposed to the internet is a dangerous thing.
Experienced programmers who already know what they’re doing? Code assistants can be a bliss for tired fingers and wrists.
I think posts about LLM technology itself can be interesting, but random self promoting blogspam from founder types and tech bros about how they’ve found the secret to using “agentic programming” responsibly is the most boring thing imaginable. So yes, if it has to exist please put it somewhere else.
I am all for “Vibe coders” having their own community and not associating with this one. I recommend the name “codemonkeys@aislop.dev”.
Did people at !Aii@programming.dev express that they aren’t interested in reading these articles, too? Because an AI-related community on a programming-related instance semantically conveys the same environment as a community dedicated to AI coding specifically in my opinion.
Thank you everyone for your input. I have created a separate community, !aicoding@programming.dev, for AI coding related discussions.