The coming coordination calamity (surfingcomplexity.blog)
from codeinabox@programming.dev to programming@programming.dev on 25 May 08:24
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ell1e@leminal.space on 25 May 09:05 next collapse

AI code is pretty unusably bad for long term use anyway medium.com/…/i-saw-the-horror-of-ai-and-coderabbi… so best solution is to just to handwrite proper code as before. It’s not like we ever had much of an output problem in most coding industries, it was always a quality and bugs problem.

squaresinger@lemmy.world on 25 May 12:22 next collapse

Can you maybe post the text.

locuester@lemmy.zip on 25 May 13:52 collapse

That article is from January. This space moves too fast. It’s not worth reading. I thought things still sucked in Jan too. But they’re impressive af now.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 25 May 15:09 next collapse

It’s impressive until it isn’t because it decided to “fix” an issue by simply ignoring an exception.

ugo@feddit.it on 25 May 15:16 collapse

I’m sorry to say this is a garbage take. I have been told “6 months ago things sucked, but they are amazing now” for like 2 years.

When chatgpt4 came out I was told it was amazing and that 6 months old models sucked.

Nowadays I use chatgpt4 and it produces garbage and I get told “yeah but chatgpt4 is garbage”. Well, it was supposedly amazing 6 months ago and my work is still the same and the codebase is mostly the same.

This is called bullshitting. This stuff isn’t amazing now and it wasn’t amazing 6 months ago.

locuester@lemmy.zip on 25 May 15:39 collapse

I realize you aren’t happy about it. But it’s true.

I was basically born behind a computer in 1978. Been a fulltime software dev since 1998.

What the latest models are doing is nothing short of incredible. And in 6 months the current models will suck compared to the latest.

Somewhere around Feb is when things really shifted for me personally. I can do all home sys and net admin tasks now by just asking a bot, running a LOCAL model. Frontier models can whip up apps in minutes.

It does require dev/architect knowledge to get quality. You have to understand the broad solution, then just get ai to do the grunt work.

I wrote all 4 of these this week, 100% ai code. I wouldn’t have had the time to write the first three, but it (opus 4.6 I think) oneshot them all in a couple mins:

Homey apps:

Other:

Do these repos have bugs? Yep probably. But they’re working today for me solving my problems.

The same applies on large repos where I do work. When properly guided by a high skill dev/architect, the results are profound. Even non code stuff like terraform and ansible.

Given proper direction, an LLM allows you to perform at a much higher level.

squaresinger@lemmy.world on 25 May 12:19 collapse

Is anyone actually productively running multiple agents at once? All the context switching in such a short time span feels like a great way to completely forget what you are doing and losing tasks in the mess.

locuester@lemmy.zip on 25 May 13:55 next collapse

I am getting in the habit of keeping one async agent going in the background working on things while I also use ai in windsurf.

I think windsurf supports this natively with their background agents, but I run my background task in Claude code because then I can use my local qwen 3.6 27b

cbazero@programming.dev on 25 May 14:25 collapse

No but you can lie to yourself that you are.